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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:01 pm
by jordancolburn
I'll be the toproping bitch! no shame. Well, when you can't get up even on toprope, there is some shame, but it slowly subsides......
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:37 pm
by cliftongifford
Andrew wrote:Sorry cliftongifford, but after looking at your ticklist it is no surprise ....
Agreed, I guess I don't climb hard/overhung stuff enough to have to worry about it. Although, I'm assuming that'd be the case for the majority of people on this forum... Usually if the route is hard/impossible to rap from there's easily replaced biners on the route and not rings welded shut that are a pain to replace. If I see a route that has permanant rings I always rap. But thanks anyways for reminding me how weak I am....
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:16 pm
by Andrew
Actually you climb strong, its just that the routes you have done aren't that steep. You are probably right that routes like that should be rapped when cleaning, but sorry I will lower, but I also replaced worn out gear.
For everyone who says to toprope to get the gear, I don't really climb with anyone who topropes. Seriously, can you even really call it climbing.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:46 pm
by cliftongifford
Andrew wrote: Seriously, can you even really call it climbing.
only sometimes... when you're trading pitches and seconding/cleaning it can sometimes get rough... but usually there isn't the same fall potential. And very rare for The Red.
I always carry bail biners or quick links with me that I'm willing to sacrifice for the cause, and webbing to replace sketchy shit when I'm at a traditional crag. The RRG obviously has a lot of climbers doing the same, nearly every route I've been on has had some sort of bombproof setup... Props the community for keeping it safe.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:58 pm
by bcombs
Andrew wrote:....I don't really climb with anyone who topropes...
Except for me, when I'm really out of shape, like right now.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:28 pm
by dustonian
all this said, you do occasionally see a huge group from some gym or college rec club or whatever toprope-gangbanging some route directly through the anchors, lowering overweight chuffers over and over again with their sandy rope through the rings.... now that is truly unconscionable.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:52 pm
by Clevis Hitch
the biggest problem in climbing is climbers! Those fuckers...
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:05 pm
by KD
esp the you know who's from you know where that we cant mention because he gets mad and they says things and then we cant talk about them anymore.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:15 pm
by gregkerzhner
let it be noted, this is the only proper way to clean a route. Next time you quit half way up your madness cave flail fest, if you aren't doing this, I will personally kick you in the baby maker. Twice if you arent wearing a helmet and thrice if your also not using an 8
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:03 pm
by JR
Love that picture Greg. Are you wearing kneepads????Aren't kneepads a little Ghey?