Christians?

[pigsteak]

alan, I barely know you, and my bottom dollar says you have had a twisted person in your childhood to pretend to be a Christian..am I right....

99% of atheists have had a bad experience with a religious person that they trusted (psuedo or otherwise) in their early life and it has colored their current views. just part of life boys..but I can assure you alan, you'll never be happy util you get over this hatred..it is truly eating you inside out...talk about a dark alley to walk thru every night of your life.

[krampus]

alan, I barely know you, and my bottom dollar says you have had a twisted person in your childhood to pretend to be a Christian..am I right....

uh yeah, there called priests

[pigsteak]

alan, I barely know you, and my bottom dollar says you have had a twisted person in your childhood to pretend to be a Christian..am I right....

uh yeah, there called priests

lol...touche...I am not catholic, so I have no idea what goes on in them dark hallways.

[Barnacle Ben]

99% of atheists have had a bad experience with a religious person that they trusted (psuedo or otherwise) in their early life and it has colored their current views.

74% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[RRO]

broken people, all of us

that just needed said again. lets hope everyone can see that in themselves and try to work on it with every action they take.

and now i bow out of this conversation and those like it. too many brain cells and time wasted already.

now im going outside to cut mtb trails for all to enjoy, believers and non.......

and i thought it was 63% was made up but i could be wrong

[pigsteak]

99% of atheists have had a bad experience with a religious person that they trusted (psuedo or otherwise) in their early life and it has colored their current views.

74% of statistics are made up on the spot.

clearly someone failed to see the implied message.....would I have been better served saying EVERY and ALL like Alan? Or just use 100% and then it isn't a stat but a law governing the universe. like "ALL" idiots I know are Christians....

[caribe]

and, dipsi, this thread is about to prove EXACTLY your point.

it might present evidence for the fact that I am not THE Christian basher on this site.

caribe, are you embarassed by your brethern?

That is funny. There is no church. Just because Alan Evil does not believe in unicorns does not make us brothers in church-like unity.

and then a horde who believes JUST LIKE YOU comes out and spews their hate...yep, you non beleivers are all alike, and the most hatful people out there.

Well, I agree with Alan's first sentence: "Some of the best people I've known in my life have been Christians." . . . The post that I contributed after Alan's post summed up most succinctly what I believe. In a word, down boy, my response to Alan's post is out there.

of blanket hating every single religious person who doesn'tld his esteemed and vaulted sense of morals, ethics, and world order....and just when we thought neo cons were close minded he explodes on the scene.

I bet I could have a beer with Alan in the company of Christians without the hatred. I am not sure, I don't know him.

that being said, caribe, are you man enough to denounce his version of reality as unacceptable and never climb with him?

No, he is denouncing a particular philosophy instead of a group of people. If I denounce racists, sexists and gay bashers does that make me a hater? Can we have opinions without hatred? He acknowledges that there is a way to do Christianity that will not brush him the wrong way. In this he is pluralistic. I do not have much argumentative latitude here due to my agreement with Dipsi and all Christians on RRC.com.

since saxman applauded and approved of the message

No, Saxman is a brother. He is also not hateful to anyone, including Christians.

I am assuming you will do the right thing and also no longer climb with him. if not, please call yourself out as a hypocrite right here just like all these religious nut jobs they hate.

Well, Crankmas made racist statements. I am not climbing with him because his statements indicate to me that he has an agenda. He has the right to be racist, but I no longer feel safe with him. I don't think he values my life. If anyone has a problem with individual members of religion Z or Q for reason X and Y and they state how they are adversely affecting P (where P might be politics, quality of life, education etc.), this is simply dialog. I don't think it is correct to parse this criticism as hate. Alan did come on a strong though. In any case I do not feel hypocritical in not denouncing Sax and Alan.

[anticlmber]

HE'S BAAACCKKK.

[caribe]

99% of atheists have had a bad experience with a religious person that they trusted (psuedo or otherwise) in their early life . . .

. . . and this is the reason that they do not see the light of Anat, Athirat, Athtart, Baal, El, Mot, Shapsu, Yam, Yarikh? To keep the heat off any modern religion that people might be sensitive to I listed ancient Canaanite gods only.

[rhunt]

broken people, all of us

It's this very idea that make most world religions, especially christianity, abusive. I would suggest that the human condition is what it is because it is fueled with these religious ideas of what humans are. Now its all turned upside down and most world religions can not deal with the human condition so they condem, hate and work hard to control human behavior.

Personally for me, I finally got spiritually healthy when I could get away from the idea that I am a inherently broken person in need of forgiveness and learned that mostly I am a pretty good person. Not a sinner in need of grace and forgiveness just a human in need of emotional/spiritual honesty.