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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:19 pm
by lena_chita
njp158 wrote:I guess what throws me off is that the tie in points are redundant, you go through the top and bottom of your harness and even the belay if you please. I guess the Belay loop wouldn't be submitted to as much shock loading, but still you are catching lead falls on it potentially. I guess in my mind if we have redundant tie in points we should also have redundant belay/rappel loops.
potentially catching lead falls... Your belay loop has a lot of unrealized potential, I guess.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:29 pm
by powen01
Might as well post this... http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en ... elay-loops


Good read.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:39 pm
by heath
From their website: "Two belay/rappel loops make setting up for rappels and multi-pitch belays easier"

They don't give you two because you're supposed to use both when belaying. They aren't trying to make it redundant![/quote]


Whether or not they are trying to make it redundant, it is.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:57 pm
by TradMike
Most belay loops that I have seen are actually two seperate slings sewn together so they are redundant.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:13 pm
by pkananen
heath wrote:From their website: "Two belay/rappel loops make setting up for rappels and multi-pitch belays easier"

They don't give you two because you're supposed to use both when belaying. They aren't trying to make it redundant!

Whether or not they are trying to make it redundant, it is.[/quote]

No. You only belay off of one of them. You don't clip through both.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:59 pm
by heath
You don't clip through both, or what? Is the metolius monster going to get you?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:02 pm
by pkananen
heath wrote:You don't clip through both, or what? Is the metolius monster going to get you?
Obviously you can. They just didn't design it so you'd clip both when belaying.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:10 pm
by bcombs
But, Peter... there are two of them! It's right there in the picture. Two of them... it is redundant. Like this post.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:24 pm
by ReachHigh
no this post is redundant.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:24 pm
by ReachHigh
no this post is redundant.