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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:49 pm
by the lurkist
the lurkist wrote:Save yourself a lot of trouble and get a treadwall.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:09 pm
by toad857
i think treadwalls are more gimicky than they are useful.
they're too small. one upward 'lunge', as a climber usually does at the red, spans the entire treadwall and then some. it's only practical if you do 'micro' moves. i'm not tall, but i could only see really using a treadwall if they had an extra 4 feet or so on them.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:28 pm
by bcombs
toad857 wrote:i think treadwalls are more gimicky than they are useful.
they're too small. one upward 'lunge', as a climber usually does at the red, spans the entire treadwall and then some. it's only practical if you do 'micro' moves. i'm not tall, but i could only see really using a treadwall if they had an extra 4 feet or so on them.
I went from 11d to 12c in just over a year and I owe most of it to a treadwall.
[edit] Well actually about a year and a half, but still.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:47 pm
by pigsteak
bcombs wrote:toad857 wrote:i think treadwalls are more gimicky than they are useful.
they're too small. one upward 'lunge', as a climber usually does at the red, spans the entire treadwall and then some. it's only practical if you do 'micro' moves. i'm not tall, but i could only see really using a treadwall if they had an extra 4 feet or so on them.
I went from 11d to 12c in just over a year and I owe most of it to a treadwall.
[edit] Well actually about a year and a half, but still.
no you don't...you owe it to training in general....and climbing soft routes at the Red.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:53 pm
by bcombs
Well, now that is true.
It could have been the Pilates, or the running, or the bouldering, or the hangboard, or good vibes from good partners.
But... I can guarantee you this. Any time I've pushed on through the last 20 feet on a route even though I was totally gassed. It's a result of hours of paddling on the treadwall. I disagree with comment about "one upward lunge". If the holds are placed on it correctly, slow the thing down, and I climb it exactly like I climb in the Red.
Now, mine is modified to be steeper, but I still saw a huge benefit before that.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:56 pm
by pigsteak
climb it like you climb in the Red? you mean repetitive boring routes of the same jugs over and over? yawn, sounds like a needle in the eye....
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:00 pm
by bcombs
Pig, quit picking a fight. You already started a war with everyone downgrading everyone else's sends.
And yes, it is exactly like that.
Grabbed that chalked jug, no not that jug, the other one, rinse and repeat.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:05 pm
by pigsteak
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:49 pm
by tutugirl
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:00 pm
by Andrew
needs more holds.