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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:25 pm
by Ascentionist
whatahutch wrote:Besides, I have a kid on the way, and being that both my wife and I are both in gradschool, we don't have 125 or 130 bucks to spare.
Would you want your kid falling on sketch hangers?
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:31 pm
by Savage
dbrayack wrote:Steel is Steel....the hangers are fine - I'd be more worried about the bolts....ripping out of the rock (surface area failure)
Dan, I thought you were a civil engineer.... you should know better than to oversimplify things. =)
Not all steel is the same. You can bet your ass they used as cheap of steel as possible to make that bed frame. And lets not forget about what happens when the hangers rust... and they WILL rust if you arent using stainless.
I fully understand going the cheap route, but why risk it. Is your life worth the $135? If if a hanger blows and you dont die, but just get hurt.... are your medical bills going to be cheaper?
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:34 pm
by 512OW
Ditto what Mike said. Time is worth far more than money. $130 in exchange for the hours it would take to make those hangers seems like a steal.
You could just put in the studs, and lead with a rack of real hangers. That'd be just as dumb... but even cheaper.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:45 pm
by the lurkist
Actually I believe Danno has a Master Degree in Materials Engineering with an emphasis in metalurgy. Something like that....
When he was a WVU I was going to send him a bunch of crappy bolts to break and quantify strength. Never got around to it.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:49 pm
by Savage
in that case.... he REALLY knows better! =) I know he's a smart dude, and I actually agree that they will probably be fine. I just wouldnt risk it. you dont know what kind of crappy metal they used, plus its going to be mild steel and not stainless.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:26 pm
by whatahutch
My father is a pipe fitter and he has a little bit of angle iron on the farm. Not old bed rails. I will use a hand grinder with a cutting wheel to cut it, or the torch (the heat might lesson the strength there).
Good point Anderson, but you lacked the vision. I also have a drill press to cut the holes.
Right tools for the job makes it cheap and fast. I will use the bench grinder to smooth and buff the edges, throw some primer paint on them and go.
Almost as good as the 1.30 fixes.
Just home made. Climbers used to have more balls.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:27 pm
by whatahutch
And be bigger dirtbags without money.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:39 pm
by pigsteak
if it weren't for team suck replacing porter bolts and hangers, can you imagine the nightmare we'd have on our hands? thank god for non dirtbags who will step up and pay for these replacements.
so whatahutch, real dirtbags should only climb trad. sport climbing is for wienies, old farts, and people with jobs and no climbing skills.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:55 pm
by bcombs
whatsherhooch, get real dude... by the time you cut, drill, grind and paint 100 of these things you could have easily made $130.00 at the rest area.
Dirtbags used to be more resourceful.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:09 pm
by Savage
bcombs wrote:whatsherhooch, get real dude... by the time you cut, drill, grind and paint 100 of these things you could have easily made $130.00 at the rest area.
Dirtbags used to be more resourceful.
HAHAHA.... now thats thinking outside the box!
There are old climbers and there are bold climbers...but there are no old, bold climbers. I think Paul Petzoldt said that....