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Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:30 am**

How do you get your friend to realize they are a great climber who could be advancing their climbing a ton while also entertaining rather interesting goals like climbing every 11 sport route in the Red? This distribution screams untapped potential:

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Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:52 am**

because climbing isn't about the numbers? just a guess, if your incredible friend is having a good time with his inane goal. after all, aren't all climbing goals a bit narcissistic?

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:07 am**

512OW wrote:
tutugirl wrote:I just want to know why everytime there is a negative statement it always include the word "women or girls"?? I heard many men also saying I would like to do this climb because the crux is low and my endurance is low right now...but it is OK for a guy to make that comment. How about saying I heard two climbers say...rather than saying the sex of the climber??

For me it is not about climbing something I am strong or weak but about falling in love...I have to fall in love with the movement of the climb, the flow of the climb etc. They sometimes fit my style and sometimes they don't but the attraction has to be there.
"Guys" or "Men" are used in far more examples than women. We aren't bitchin. Besides, as soon as women stop claiming First Female Ascents, we'll talk about equality.

I wonder if Tommy Caldwell has "The Nose: First Male Ascent" on his climbing resume?

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:28 am**

camhead wrote:
512OW wrote:
tutugirl wrote:I just want to know why everytime there is a negative statement it always include the word "women or girls"?? I heard many men also saying I would like to do this climb because the crux is low and my endurance is low right now...but it is OK for a guy to make that comment. How about saying I heard two climbers say...rather than saying the sex of the climber??

For me it is not about climbing something I am strong or weak but about falling in love...I have to fall in love with the movement of the climb, the flow of the climb etc. They sometimes fit my style and sometimes they don't but the attraction has to be there.
"Guys" or "Men" are used in far more examples than women. We aren't bitchin. Besides, as soon as women stop claiming First Female Ascents, we'll talk about equality.
I wonder if Tommy Caldwell has "The Nose: First Male Ascent" on his climbing resume?

hmm, i think he should!

and, tutugirl, perhaps to shame us with recognition in that story?

to be fair, the other lady in question's project of the day was a route that was quite reachy for her, and she just kept climbing it till she got it.

me, though, i have no excuse. well, i have one- i'm not very strong, how about that? pretty good at readin' standstone, pretty good at using holds, but not very strong, overall.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:58 am**

pigsteak wrote:because climbing isn't about the numbers? just a guess, if your incredible friend is having a good time with his inane goal. after all, aren't all climbing goals a bit narcissistic?

But that is the point, he is chasing numbers, not how well he can climb. I will support him no matter what, but he will get hell for it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:03 pm**

I don't believe in FFA either...I think it should be one FA and that is all.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:29 pm**

Saxman wrote:
pigsteak wrote:because climbing isn't about the numbers? just a guess, if your incredible friend is having a good time with his inane goal. after all, aren't all climbing goals a bit narcissistic?
But that is the point, he is chasing numbers, not how well he can climb. I will support him no matter what, but he will get hell for it.

yeah but what if this person is simply building a large base of skills by doing some silly project that will later pay dividends when they may start crushing?

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