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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:37 am
by 512OW
ditzywonder wrote:
512OW wrote:Maxim. I use a 9.9 Glider. Its bigger, so it lasts a little longer... but handles just like my 9.1. The dry treatment on it never seemed slippery in my grigri.

Read all the reviews... they'll say the same.

www.neropes.com

waaaaaiiit a minute......sponsored people dont get to vote on this one ;)
Thats why I threw in the "read the reviews" part.... :)

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:21 am
by Anticrainbow
I currently have a Sterling Evolution and it isn't as durable as I expected.

After about 6 months of moderate use there is some fraying at the middle mark where the color changes but it's not really a big deal, just minor sheath wear.

I heard the Evolution series might be discontinued...?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:04 am
by ynot
Sharp rock will fray any rope. Doesn't matter what brand it is.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:58 am
by RedRiverOutlaw
I prefer Wal-Mart rope from the Automotive Dept. it works the very best!

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:22 pm
by Redpoint
RedRiverOutlaw wrote:I prefer Wal-Mart rope from the Automotive Dept. it works the very best!
Ya and they sell some really nice BINERS too, I think the brand of them are 'Not Load Bearing' the most trusted name in climbing. :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:16 am
by local
maxium

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:09 am
by Redpoint
I like my Mammut Supersafe for the following reasons:

- they have been making rope for 140 years.

- they are the only company who drop tests one rope out of every batch for consistency.

- they use a lap coiling machine so that the ropes are ready to use as soon as you get them, tangle free.

- it has Mammuts COATINGfinish: individual rope strands are Teflon coated in order to minimize chafing and improve friction co-efficiency. Loading, e.g. through a fall, is uniformly distributed through each individual filament, thereby optimizing performance. In this way, substantially lighter ropes with the same number of falls, or ropes which can hold a substantially higher load and have the same weight can be made. In addition to better performance in standard testing, the COATINGfinish gives their ropes furthor advantages: they have reduced rope drag, absorb less dirt and moisture, are specially easy to handle and maintain their level of performance for longer.

- it has superDRY: most companies only treat just the rope's sheath, but Mammut treats both the sheath and core, This makes the superDRY treatment more effective and durable, and optimizes handling, abrasion resistance, dirt resistance, and life span.

- it has duraFLEX: a heat treatment process on the finished rope allows it to maintain smooth, consistent handling and long lifespan.

- it's rope ends have been welded with an ultra sonic process which is permanent and perfect. The rope core and sheath are therefor permanently joined forever. No more sheath slippage.

- it has 3 markings, one in the middle and one 5 meters from each end to prevent repelling off of the end of your rope.

- it is 1 of only 2 ropes that I have ever heard of that passed the UIAA's sharp edge test. That test was found to be inconsistent though, and will no longer be in effect here soon.


You might be thinking that I just cut and pasted that crap, but I respect Mammut so much I typed a lot of that stuff right out of their pamphlet that comes with their ropes. The pamphlet is awesome, it tells you so much about how to take care of your rope, and it even talks about fall factors. ;) There is much more to their ropes, but I am not going to type every detail out, but I'm sure you get the idea. I took my rope lead tree climbing, and it ended up wrapping all the way around this tree because of our route, and with all of the taking and giving slack(as hard as it was being wrapped around a tree), not the slightest sign of sheath wear occurred. When my Gri was brand new, my friends 70 meter Supersafe was hard to give slack, but now that my Gri is broken in, it is as simple as pie. I would have thought the more a Gri is used, the looser the spring would get and the harder it is to give slack, but a friend showed me his old Gri, and showed me that the metal wears down and actually makes it easier to give slack the older they are.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:56 am
by pkananen
Redpoint, have you ever considered becoming a technical writer? Seems like a potential good fit for you.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:46 pm
by camhead
word of warning about Peztl ropes, as someone has already mentioned, their sheaths fray BADLY. There were a bunch of occasions last year where their Zephyrs were fraying down to the core within a couple days' use. I used one of their other ropes (not a Zephyr) part of last season, and it also frayed down to the core after about five months of weekend use. Fortunately I got a refund from REI (WOO!), but I am definitely staying away from them from now on.

I've had excellent luck with both maxims and sterlings.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:50 pm
by ahab
pkananen wrote:Redpoint, have you ever considered becoming a technical writer? Seems like a potential good fit for you.
Redpoint wrote:You might be thinking that I just cut and pasted that crap, but I respect Mammut so much I typed a lot of that stuff right out of their pamphlet that comes with their ropes.