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Joel: this brand of calling one out via song is part of the calypso culture of the southern Caribbean islands. to have this form of musical communication transposed to rap in the climbing community makes me feel at home. On the islands such a challenge would be answered musically with a response from another calypso mon, but Odub is alone.

I guess there is some of this political play in the rap genre but the frequency pales in comparison to calypso's hundred-plus-year history of political commentary.

My understanding is that the perpetrator is contrite and repairs have been made. The song does not have to translate as a lionization of the doer, just the deed.

krampus wrote:Caribe, if you ever plan on complimenting me, go ahead and settle with a less ultimate compliment. One that I might understand and obtain value from.

That's mean. Adam is a nice guy.
With all the sadness in the gorge lately, it's truly upsetting that you were motivated to use your creative voice to extend hate instead of love to an individual in our community.

But hey, you know me...nothing new, right Kris?

I just thing the song is crap.

Artsay wrote:That's mean. Adam is a nice guy.
With all the sadness in the gorge lately, it's truly upsetting that you were motivated to use your creative voice to extend hate instead of love to an individual in our community.

But hey, you know me...nothing new, right Kris?

Thats what I thought too. You didn't get the email I got from him... or read the ones I read from him to other people...

The act.
The art in response to the act.
The response to the art.
All force an agonizing appraisal of the structure of our community.

The players on all sides care enough to do x or go public with y.
By this we grow, compromise and come to consensus. We decide what is more right and what is more wrong. We set behavioral guidelines for the future.

In the absence of this societal push and pull we are less than chimps . . . we are bacteria.

The discourse isn't personal. The discourse is not about identifying the villains from the heroes. The discourse is about a better Gorge.

I would climb with Adam if I climbed as hard as Adam even though I don't know Adam from Adam. I don't think this is about Adam or about Kris. The Calypsonians to whom I elude above are not concerned with winning some personality contest; they are concerned with a better world.

well played kris... 8)

Why do I keep liking rap?

Oh yeah..........

Caribe, you're smarter than you look.

Its the Sarah Palin glasses. I used to wear round wire rims. With those Trotsky look-a-likes on my nose I never had a problem with credibility.

512OW wrote:Caribe, you're smarter than you look.

don't forget to tell us to get a six pack