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SCIN wrote:

Lynne wrote:well since I suck equally at trad and sport, it works for me. However there are many incredibly accomplished climbers who have never jammed a crack (and never will). So if someone onsights 5.13x sport, are they only a ~5.4 climber?

I don't think so.

In my eyes, yes.

LOL well hell, that makes me feel pretty damn good about myself then!

Because I focus my efforts on being a well rounded climber, of course I'm going to judge others that way. Why would I look at others any different than what I feel is important?

I feel that one of the best climbers in the world is Ron Kauk. Has he done 5.15? Nope. But he is a very accomplished and well rounded rock climber. Many kids have no idea who he is.

I wonder if that's who La Sportiva named the "Kaukulator" shoe after? Coincidence? .....yeah, probably.

Mj

SCIN wrote:Because I focus my efforts on being a well rounded climber, of course I'm going to judge others that way. Why would I look at others any different than what I feel is important?

You shouldn't. And your questions are good, because clearly many people rate themselves under a different set of criteria. That is why I think that when you are hooking up with someone for the first time, you have to specify what you mean. Especially you bad asses!

I think being a well rounded climber is important, too, but I do know people who choose to "only" boulder or sport climb and I respect their pursuits. Just not as much as I do someone who is accomplished in all types of climbing.

Oh, and I don't think should go by onsite ability, more like what you generally send with a couple tries, esp. for bouldering and sport climbing.

Wes

onsite- the only gauge.

NOt everyone has the time to focus on all three areas, sport, trad, bouldering. I certainly would not change my opinion of someone that I would rate a solid climber any differently if they just concentration on sport, for example. Sure I would love to be a well rounded climber technically but I tend to lean moretowards bouldering but still work at sport/trad. Plus I am not out there tearing up the rock looking for sponsorship, name recognition, blah blah blah. I am out there enjoying the sports, my friends, and my husband. It's a package deal.

So my point being that it all comes down to each individual's agenda will determine how well rounded of a climber they can become! Hell I'm round enough as it is

and that which you can on-site pretty much all day......under...............stress.

how dare you post when i am posting. i should just gauge your climbiing ability right here and now.

See "You Suck, I Suck Everything Sucks" for a humourous quote about how stupid this thread is....

Climbing is about individualism and how we push ourselves to be better than we are, not better than others around us, PERIOD!