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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:29 pm
by pigsteak
there ya have it..unbiased and unvarnished from Tomdarch..
I only have one problem with your assessment Tom....your take is so skewed and screwed that if anything, I am more UNLIKELY to vote for Obama based on your rhetoric.
At times I thought you had an even handed thought process...I apologize for being so generous with my doubt. 8)
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:51 pm
by tomdarch
Stephen Colbert wrote:Reality has a well known liberal bias.
Who says I'm unbiased? Sometimes, I'm biased and correct. So you're saying that you can't fault what I'm saying, you just don't like how I'm saying it. Fair enough.
Let me try some rhetoric that I think is more your style: One guy is going to lower taxes on T. Boone Pickens, George Soros, Bill Gates and his own wife. The other guy is going to lower your taxes and mine. I want the guy who is going to lower our taxes.
Better?
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:09 am
by Danny
I thought it was cool how Biden tried to say "that's not change, that's more of the same" quickly so that all the duchbags would stop chanting.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:18 am
by Danny
tomdarch wrote:pigsteak wrote:seriously, I'd like to hear your "road to victory" for McCain....becasue like it or not, it is still a real possibility.
Sure - McCain winning is the "water flows downhill", easy result. America electing a "black" person goes against so much that is so deeply rooted, that it will take extraordinary effort. Fear, uncertainty and doubt ("FUD") are natural, powerful aspects of the human mind - they've been used to sell trillions of dollars of products and keep despots in power for decades. Fearful, uncertain people full of doubt about America - our present and our future - will choose the "wrinkly, white haired guy", the person most media tells them is a "great guy" and the safe bet. It's the easy choice, not the courageous one, not the confident one.
Do you think that being black is hurting Barak? Poor racists aren't really republican. I think it's a problem, but it is balanced (in terms of his blackness) by the desire in some fence post racists to wash their sins away. Given his success, you have to wonder what the balance is.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:25 am
by kdunbar
"I think many dems are having buyer's remorse after Hillary got canned. She'd be way stronger right now against McCain."
um, are you kidding me? Hillary is as much the devil is Bush! That is, unless you really do want big business to be the overall winner...
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:25 pm
by L K Day
It's fun to hate big business, and groovy cool too, but without General Motors, Boeing, Microsoft, IBM, Toyota, etc. you wouldn't have a pot to piss in. So grow up, punk.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:34 pm
by pigsteak
easy larry....since Al gore invented the internet, it is the domain of libs everywhere.
let's just hope they aren't posting here on a Mac (big business, BIG time), running ANY Microsoft products, or even a rip off IBM machine.....while they spew their hatred to the uninformed masses. and of course, the one we alllllllll love...they'll drive to the Red this Labor Day weekend, all the while filling the pockets of BIG oil....gotta love libs, for they know not what they think. they just re-act. keep blaming the cheney and bush devil team, all the while assisting them in their heist. they just keep flipping you off, and laughing at your pathetic, pseudo intellectual ramblings...
now go have some chai tea.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:24 pm
by charlie
pigsteak, that's so ridiculous I feel stupid commenting. I am self aware enough to not blame someone for making me sleep in the bed I made for myself.. You ever hear me whine about gas prices?
That said, talk to anyone smartsized from Microsoft and IBM or any other technology company about H1-B visa's. You had to make any tech support calls lately? You had to manage a project without any resource on hand? Those people were my friends and coworkers 5 years ago. Now that resource lives on the other side of the world and I can't get them to do anything well, though impossible to manage workers and really low performance indicators are a hell of a lot cheaper!
A level laying field is one thing. A playing field that abandons our indigent talents and cuts the tax base because outsourced companies do not live in the US (or pay taxes) is something altogether different. I am a fan of big business (it's been paying for my liberal bias for over a decade) but something's fishy in the American economy these days.
Takes a lot to get me pissed, but sending our intellectual capital overseas or bringing foreign workers here to do my colleagues' jobs poorly is a bit of a sore point. We are training our competition at a cost to our team and it's not going to work out well unless we are allowed to make some changes.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:18 am
by ynot
Mrs. Obama is going to be a dynamite first lady.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:55 am
by Danny
I thought Obama's speech kind of sucked. Most of the commentators seem to be praising it because he was being critisized as too much of a rock star and wanted to come off as a normal guy. I've definitely been turned off by his rock star status but not really because of anything he's done but because of all the stupid supporters I have to listen to and watch drool all over themselves every day. I hope I wasn't his audience because I was unimpressed.