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stick with C4s or TCUs...they are the best...doubles in the fingers and hands and a set of stoppers should do you just fine...

I hate to bring this rather old thread to the top, but it was one I had bookmarked/followed long ago and it needs an update since gear4rocks got certification on some products several months ago. They claim on the website that they will be working on other product lines, I am guessing this is not a cheap process for a little East European startup company and that is likely the limiting factor. I can sympathize with that.
The website is here:
http://gear4rocks.com/
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Listen to Danny. Buy BD. If you buy cheap cams you will just replace them down the road and spend even more. My Metolious rack is 10 years old and pretty worn out. The Bd's are still solid. I have a few odd cams that are just kinda OK. Why be cheap when your life depends on them?

In soviet russia cams whip on you...

het ynot, how can 10 year old cams be worn out? I didn't know traddies even fell on the gear..is that from opening beer bottles or something?

ynot wrote:Listen to Danny. Buy BD. If you buy cheap cams you will just replace them down the road and spend even more. My Metolious rack is 10 years old and pretty worn out. The Bd's are still solid. I have a few odd cams that are just kinda OK. Why be cheap when your life depends on them?

Funny you say that. I have a set of OLD BDs that are in great shape. HEAVY. thick axles. Real old. Look suspiciously like the Ukrainian ones. I also have a set of BDs that are only 3 or 4 years old and I am sketched out by them, light weight, skinny axis, no way to inspect most of it. Same with my metolius and trangos. can't inspect 80% of it, a bunch of the cable is in a opaque sheath? Can’t service it. They ARE LIGHT, i can not complain about that. But I am not a young kid anymore, I don't need light. I appreciate the longevity of my heavy old BD that is part of the reason I ordered a set from gear4rocks. They look like my old gear. I know that sounds like i am a cranky old man...

Besides, every year I get caught halfway up a route in a thunderstorm, or I don't trust part of a rap route. I end up leaving gear, normally nuts, but gear all the same. I would rather leave a $25 cam than a $65 cam.

You have never seen these products, nor have I. Could be great, could be crap. We will see. But CE certification is CE certification.

ynot wrote:Listen to Danny. Buy BD. If you buy cheap cams you will just replace them down the road and spend even more. My Metolious rack is 10 years old and pretty worn out. The Bd's are still solid. I have a few odd cams that are just kinda OK. Why be cheap when your life depends on them?

BD makes good cams...in China. I am pretty much done supporting BD.
I have owned a pair of cheap chech made rock empire cams for 7 years, I trust them. But it is your life - choose wisely!

what's wrong with China? over the Czech republic, for instance?

We makeah you right and functionar cam fol Amelican lock crimbels in the Led Liver Golge! Just as good as Brack Diamond or Metorius much much cheap yes? China Good Geal yes yes?

China? that sucks. Every time they out source something that was good it goes downhill. I really liked climbing on the c4's. They go in fast.
Danny, what kind of cam was it that umbrellaed on you on Fibrulator? just out of curiosity. That's the only time I have ever seen a cam wrecked in a fall. My cams are beat up from stuffing them in the pack in a heap I suspect. It's hard on the wires.