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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:42 pm
by tomdarch
Check out the guides at Dr. Topo:

http://www.drtopo.com/illinois/jackson.pdf Jackson Falls sport/trad

http://www.drtopo.com/illinois/soill.pdf Souther Illinois bouldering

Because of very touchy access issues, there is no guide for the Holy Boulders - you need a local to take you.

Give me a moment, and I'll put up some of my photos from this weekend.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:17 pm
by wanderer
My understanding is DR TOPO guides for JFalls sport and trad climbing is innaccurate and pretty much useless, use the Rockclimbing.com guide.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:27 am
by andy_lemon
wanderer wrote:My understanding is DR TOPO guides for JFalls sport and trad climbing is innaccurate and pretty much useless, use the Rockclimbing.com guide.
Yes Matt, you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out.

Tom, please verify that the Dr. Topo guide is incorrect by going to the guide I listed on rc.com, most of the info on that guide was uploaded by Jeff Stockton (pres. Illinois Climber's Association). His info is accurate. Dr. Topo went to Southern Illinois to boulder. His sport guide is second hand info from guys he was bouldering with.

Ray, I'd say the average route is 60ft if you are climbing 11's and 12's. Some are longer, some are shorter. It doesn't compare to the lengthy routes in the Red. But you won't find this much smooth sandstone in the red either. Ask t-bone about this cool mixed route that starts out as a 12 offwidth. He onsighted it. Pretty sick levitation. YOU LIKE SICK??? :lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:32 am
by andy_lemon

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:43 pm
by Artsay
That's pretty. It looks a lot like Foster Falls, Tn.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:53 pm
by Christian
Artsay
It is beautiful there. I think Foster Falls is higher and has a much greater flow to it.
If you guys decide to go, let Andy or I know. We can show you around.
Drapers and Cedar Bluff face south and can be good in the winter. I have the 2d ed. of Ulner's guide and yo may borrow it. 8)

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:07 pm
by andy_lemon
Artsay wrote:That's pretty...
It's always plesent to see it on your hike back to camp...

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:23 am
by Guest
today was a PERFECT, beautiful day for climbing!! Thank you, Yasmeen, Hamsco, Spraqwa, and Mia for a GREAT day. If anyone finds my finger skin at Roadside, please PM me - I'd like it back.

Oh, and ladies, I got to meet Rhunt today - he's HOT. :D

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:33 am
by Yasmeen
Hell yeah! I'd like to thank everyone Sandy mentioned, plus Sandy! You all rule! Thanks, Hamsco, for being a badass and leading Mantle Route so I could follow it! I'm soooooo glad I got to climb today!

And Loren, you're a pussy. You should've come. You don't have to sleep on the doorstep, though. I'm working on that whole forgiveness thing our counselor was talking about.

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:41 am
by Steve
AHHHHH a long weekend. Turkey, family, mowing my leaves....the good life.