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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:58 pm
by Spragwa
Yasmeen wrote:Damn
I know. It suck big time. But I wrote my State Senator on the topic...kind of like shouting down a well.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:43 pm
by Huggybone
Most of the states are broke right now. Indiana is re-defining its tax code, and hauling in small buisiness owners, claiming 30,000 and up in back taxes, however, they are enacting the law retro-actively.

Crazy.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:02 pm
by Meadows
So who was bitching about corporate america?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:31 pm
by Huggybone
Huh?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:45 pm
by Alan Evil
Mega corporations don't pay taxes. They make sure (through campaign bribes... I mean, contributions) that there are always gaping holes in tax legislation that will allow them to pay nothing. For instance Exxon paid no taxes last year. Amazing, huh? I bet they pay none this time around either despite record profits. I, on the other hand, as the only employee of my company cannot afford health insurance, and the city is threatening me with a collection agency over $53. Meanwhile Hard Rock Cafe is getting it's collective cock sucked in the mayor's office downtown.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:47 pm
by pigsteak
huggybone,

man, i in know way was trying to disrespect you or the profession. i apologize if it came off that way. i was trying to match pig wisdom and pig sarcasm in one post....

let me see if i can dig out of my hole. first, i don't know what charlie means by the most noble profession. i guess we'd need to define noble. if we want to talk about noble professions, wouldn't nurses be in that category? it seems to me that people just knee jerk put these big blessings on teachers, when in reality, like has been stated elsewhere, there are as many chumps in the classroom who are horrible teachers as there are excellent teachers. alot of potential teachers chose other careers because of the money. that is sad...very sad.

anyway, i now just as many folks who went into teaching for the time off as those who did it to "make a difference"....who are we kidding to think everyone who enters any profession is fully virtuous at heart.

but i do stand by this point. if someone doesn't like their job, go get another one.

also, i disagree with your assessment that most states are broke..most states were struggling before the bush tax cuts, but recorded record revenue in 2004 and will do the same in 2005...i'll provide a link shortly.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:56 pm
by pigsteak
http://www.osbd.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/6C0 ... nBrief.pdf

this is a general view of revenue collected for kentucky...the problem isn't with revenue collection, it is with out of control spending. of course I realize it is much more complicated than this.

huggybone, why is it insane to retro tax collection, esp if they owe it? just because they cheated to not pay initially?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:13 pm
by gunslnga
Pigsteak says....
i don't know what charlie means by the most noble profession. i guess we'd need to define noble. if we want to talk about noble professions

Websters Dictionary states

noble
4 entries found for noble.
To select an entry, click on it.
noble[1,adjective]noble[2,noun]noble gasnoble savagenoble rot

Main Entry: 1no·ble
Pronunciation: 'nO-b&l
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): no·bler /-b(&-)l&r/; no·blest /-b(&-)l&st/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Latin nobilis well-known, noble, from noscere to come to know

1 a : possessing outstanding qualities : ILLUSTRIOUS b : FAMOUS, NOTABLE <noble deeds>
2 a : possessing very high or excellent qualities or properties <noble wine> b : very good or excellent
3 : grand or impressive especially in appearance <noble edifice>
4 : possessing, characterized by, or arising from superiority of mind or character or of ideals or morals :

I don't speak for Charlie, but I would guess any of these would do for his definition.
I think most of the Jobs that require a certain amount of emotional stamina when dealing with people on a constant basis in a no win situation is noble.
I agree on the baby sitting thing, you can see it on parents/teachers night. When the teacher is explaining the progress or lack there of to the parent/parents and the minute you say something constructivly critical, they attack you. They say it's all your fault, although up to that point they were not active in the childs education past dropping them off at school.

Pigsteak spouts....
i do stand by this point. if someone doesn't like their job, go get another one.

I guess when your doing a job for the love of it and it becomes hard you should just give up and get a factory job where you dont have to be anything but be an automaton. I'm basing this on the idea, that the nobility Charlie is refering to, is in the definitions I posted, if not, the post office is hiring. Btw I'm not attacking your statements, just trying to get to the skinny of them, alot of times I agree with some of your political rhetoric :D :D

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:44 pm
by Crankmas
how DO you people get on these tangents, teaching and nursing from a poll on the current presidency? thats why I only post on climbing related topics

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:56 pm
by gunslnga
Crankmas wrote:how DO you people get on these tangents, teaching and nursing from a poll on the current presidency? thats why I only post on climbing related topics
I had to go a little of the way back, but I think I found to culprit who spun us out of control.....

Crankmas started it with.....
Perhaps we would be more civil and intelligent if school teachers didn't suck so much ass, but then again the demofags need as many voting blocks as thay can get, blacks, hispanics, fags, teachers etc. vote the party not the thought process and we pay.

I don't know if it will stand up in court, but I think it's a little more tangible than Hear say :D :D