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lets clear up a few thing if you are a christian you believe that and this is fact you believe that all the other religions are going to hell becasue you dont believe in "their" god. all christians believe that. there is only one god lol and its jesus father thats what they say. So basically all christians think that every other religon is going to hell because the other religons dont believe in christ. I mean religon is a way of life and a basic standard of moral codes and whatever else like muslim dont want their wives to expose their skin thats why they are cover head to toe. Basically its all crazy muslin mormon christians its all made up some stories to keep world order and world piece maybe i ate to many paint chips but whatever

as clear as an azure sky of deepest summer.

haha

Caribe - I guess I've got to be careful with my words. I didn't ever mean to imply that I don't believe there is an omniscient, omnipresent, intelligent creator. I do believe there is. But this being probably exists in the tenth dimension or some shit..stuff that no human in a normal state of consciousness can even begin to comprehend. So everything from our plane of existence up to that plane, I believe, is a manifestation of that being's will.

As far as the unconditional love thing goes, it's very important to realize that anyone doing anything that we would describe as being bad or evil has in their mind a justification for doing whatever they do. I don't believe a person has a desire to do something 'evil'. It's confusion. Evil is nothing but a lack of good, just as dark is really lack of light, and cold a lack of heat. So, in my mind, it isn't up to me to condemn a person for committing some act of 'evil' when they do not know that what they are doing is wrong. I believe in karma. I let God do the judging if it need be done. I think it's important to forgive. Unconditional love doesn't mean being best friends with those that hurt you. It just means holding the knowledge in your heart that those people are the same as you-- they are manifestations of God's will--, and that their actions are not a reflection of their true selves, but of the lack of love they have received. So the best thing you can do is love and accept them. Acceptance, honor, graciousness, forgiveness, loyalty, and all things of the like are included in my definition of unconditional love.

You guys are a little confused about this unconditional love thing. So lets go back to the scripture. Here goes...Judge not. Now most people stop reading there, but lets go on. ..Judge not lest ye be judged. By the same measure that you judge you will be judged. Now let me explain what that means. It means that if not for the law of God you wouldn't know what right or wrong was because you are a slave to your carnal state and dont have a natural mind for higher things. Thats what that means. So if you look at someone and you feel the need to judge them. Weigh what you think against the scriptures. The Law. Take that into account when you think someone is doing wrong. This unconditional love thing is bunk. Do what the scriptures say and I;m here to tell you. It doesn't say anything about "unconditional" love.

umm the neighbor as thyself thing sort of does...but my neighbors an asshole anyway

i think a lot of people who believe in christianity cant grasp the fact that maybe god isnt a he or a she or anything that he is not up in the sky pointing his finger saying you live you die hahaha i think maybe i might be wrong maybe it was the big bang theory or simply in the grass and trees and rocks and you and me I also think christians want to put a figure on something to pay omage to. Maybe i am a dumb 22 year old kid but my dad is a preacher and he closed his church down and stopped going all together. He told me isnt wasnt because of one particular thing that happened god is real god exist maybe he is not a he or she or anything that we could wrap our simple fragile minds but he said christians like to bend the truth or only pray when they have wronged and how judgemental they can be..... the roman catholics to say the least werent so nice when the organization was question by philosophers other religons they basically killed innocent people for going against the word of god do you think jesus would have agreed with this.........................Subtitle: In NEWS1675, we revealed that one of the psychological devices priests used to get their female penitents to have sex with them was the threat to lie to the "Holy" Inquisition, so the woman would be torturously murdered. Since history books have been largely rewritten, few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.

your dad didn't close his church. God did.

why does this person sound like the spawn of Crankmas?

pigsteak wrote:your dad didn't close his church. God did.

a little suprised Pig; have you been reading Rev 2&3 lately ?