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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 2:29 am
by spuzo
Sandy wrote:
(So who hijacked The Lurkist's account?? :lol:)
I can honestly swear that it wasn't Joe...but thanks for the encouragement Lurkist....he'll be out there, kissing hands and shaking babies. .... all for the benefit of climbers in the Red.

y'all come see us now...

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 3:32 am
by ynot
Yall come see us now...hear? Wasnt that from the Beverly Hillbillys? Only you 2 are doin it backwards ,moving from the city to the boonies. :lol: I like your place.It's quiet and up on top of the hill.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 12:05 pm
by Sunshine
NEVER SHAKE A BABY!

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 12:05 pm
by spuzo
Thanks Jes...hey when you going to take me out for some crack!?!

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 2:06 pm
by captain static
Why Sunshine, I'm a "Strictly Commercial" guru of course.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:25 pm
by ynot
Mrs Ynot has me tied to the lawnmower.At first I thought it was a kinky sex game ,but now I see the heinous implications.Work may be involved.Shes rumaging around for paint brushes. I was hoping we were gonna tickle each other with them, but now I am afraid more work is immenent. dont know when I can go climb,but I'm hoping its next weekend. Know any hard and fast rules for untieing granny knots?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:28 am
by Spragwa
captain static wrote:Sandy, what exactly is it that you are trying to flesh out here? I believe it has been stated elsewhere that existing Board members recruit new ones. I am sure that the Board would also be willing to be approached by qualified volunteers. Do you or anyone else have any nominations?
Don't know about the qualified volunteers. I know that some have extended an offer of their help but have not been approached. But who knows, I'm not in the loop.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:22 am
by Artsay
ynot wrote:Mrs Ynot has me tied to the lawnmower.At first I thought it was a kinky sex game ,but now I see the heinous implications.Work may be involved.Shes rumaging around for paint brushes. I was hoping we were gonna tickle each other with them, but now I am afraid more work is immenent. dont know when I can go climb,but I'm hoping its next weekend. Know any hard and fast rules for untieing granny knots?
Dude, you crack me UP!!!! :lol:

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:52 am
by jeffers_mz
Gretchen, I figured it out when all that work was done to speed up the archaeological dig and one person though it was funny to risk it all and yank the FS chain by writing a post about chipping.

Nothing has changed.

You can't tell people to climb or not climb over property you don't own, and that's not what they want to hear so they whine about not being able to understand something as simple as fucking property rights.

You might be able to beat the forest service, you might be able to be the state park, you might be able to beat the oil company, but you will not beat the very people you are trying to save from the screwing the above want to give them. Ignorance is a self fulfilling prophecy.

Do you really need this shit?

Does your kid?

You've done your bit. You've done way more than your bit. Frankly, I don't know how Johnny or Shannon puts up with these morons, but I do know this. You have an awesome mind, unique in my experience, and this is obviously torquing you. Let them live with the consequences of their own ignorance for a while. Smell the roses that your efforts deserve.

You can continue to fight it, or you can walk away knowing you've done a great job, and I'll respect you either way, as will those few who are carrying the rest. From what Johnny said, you can walk out and in on the decision of those who always have supported you so it isn't a committing move.

But this thing I know, and you aren't going to change it. People who do not subscribe to reality are not going to change. Either you have to be their mom too, with the infinite patience that demands, or else decide it's not where you want to be anymore. It may be like ripping a part of you out and leaving it laying on the floor, but the bottom line is that if you don't have the patience to help the weak ones create their false reality, then you aren't going to be happy straddling the fence. It is an either or deal. Either way, you're good by me.

As for the rest of you morons, and you know exactly who you are, do be sure and write another 15 pages explaining from the very depths of your experience why I am wrong, etc. etc. etc and I will make every effort to return in six to twelve month to absorb your wisdom.

The lady told you to fuck off and I second the motion.

Ciao.

:-)

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:02 pm
by Gretchen
WOW, someone who actually gets it! Thanks Jeffers :D I love you man!!