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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:13 pm
by gunslnga
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:27 pm
by dmw
bitta
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:05 pm
by Day
The linked Wikipedia article is actually pretty good. It shows how frought with complication the "carbon credit" approach can be. And I quote:
"However, the actual amount of carbon reduction (if any) from an offset project is difficult to measure, largely unregulated, and vulnerable to misrepresentation.[3]"
You don't think a good scam artist might be tempted?
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:20 pm
by ScrmnPeeler
If I shit in the fountain at the mall, and then pay someone else to not shit in the fountain...there's still shit in the fountain.
Sorry libs, I likes my earth clean and all but Gore is cashing in on this war.
What did Gore do for global warming during his 8 years in office?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:21 am
by gulliver
No, thats a stupid analogy. You're not getting this at all.
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1950s: Geophysicist Roger Revelle, with the help of Hans Suess, demonstrated that carbon dioxide levels in the air had increased as a result of the use of fossil fuels.
1965: Serving on the President's Science Advisory Committee Panel on Environmental Pollution in 1965, Roger Revelle helped publish the first high-level government mention of global warming. The book-length report identified many of the environmental troubles the nation faced, and mentioned in a "subpanel report" the potential for global warming by carbon dioxide.
1977: "In 1977 the nonpartisan National Academy of Sciences issued a study called Energy and Climate, which carefully suggested that the possibility of global warming 'should lead neither to panic nor to complacency.' Rather, the study continued, it should 'engender a lively sense of urgency in getting on with the work of illuminating the issues that have been identified and resolving the scientific uncertainties that remain.' As is typical with National Academy studies, the primary recommendation was for more research." — From "Breaking the Global-Warming Gridlock" by Daniel Sarewitz and Roger Pielke Jr., THE ATLANTIC, July 2000
Roger Revelle chaired the National Academy Panel, which found that about forty percent of the anthropogenic carbon dioxide has remained in the atmosphere, two-thirds from fossil fuel and one-third from the clearing of forests. It is now known that carbon dioxide is one of the primary greenhouse gases that contributes to global warming and remains in the atmosphere for a century.
1980s: Representative Al Gore (D-TN), who had been a student of Revelle's, co-sponsored the first Congressional hearings to study the implications of global warming and to encourage the development of environmental technologies to combat global warming.
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He's doing what he can do.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:46 pm
by dmw
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:00 pm
by captain static
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:31 pm
by rhunt
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:53 am
by Alan Evil
You can never meet LK Day's criteria for being a good American if you're not Republican. They're the only "patriots" defending our land from the onslaught of alien invadors. "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." I can't imagine a "patriotic" American saying something like that. Somehow it is better to be a wasteful asshole than run a large household and business at as low a consumption rate (i.e. carbon neutral) as possible.
Conservatism is the biggest lie ever. Conservation would seem to be the ultimate level of conservatism but they fight it like it was ball eating flies.