behavior on beer/new thread:
I will give a training seminar at MauDib's 10/10 on the 3,459 reasons I don't drink no more. 8)
a few Questions for the RRGCC
vic, F/O.
I sent them an e-mail. I spoke to various members and never got any response. You are not privy to private e-mails so don't go accusing.
None of my questions can be misconstrued as finger pointing.
Innocent? Who said anything about innocent? I never did, those are your words. I don't have to be innocent, I'm not the on with my hand out saying,"Give!"
All the questions have not been answered. They said they are working on releasing a series of "RRGCC factsheets". O.K. so we wait. Then thanks will be in order.
I sent them an e-mail. I spoke to various members and never got any response. You are not privy to private e-mails so don't go accusing.
None of my questions can be misconstrued as finger pointing.
Innocent? Who said anything about innocent? I never did, those are your words. I don't have to be innocent, I'm not the on with my hand out saying,"Give!"
All the questions have not been answered. They said they are working on releasing a series of "RRGCC factsheets". O.K. so we wait. Then thanks will be in order.
JH - What a nice way to start a post (your choice I suppose).
In any case, I am just going by your exact words: on Monday Sep 29, 2003 5:18 pm, you posted on this form: “I did post them on the RRGCC.org”--------- and it didn't say anything about an email being sent. I didn't go accusing, I was quoting you.
on a different subject, the fact sheets should be considered an added bonus - something that will add to your answers. However, can you truly sit here and lead us to believe that your current questions have not been answered? If you feel that way, which ones haven't? I mean, seriously, it's okay if you have more questions, but I am just curious: If you feel that some of your questions have not been answered, then say so, and say which ones...In fact, try posting on rrgcc.org for a faster response time.
You may be the one with the hand saying give, but in this world, it goes both ways. You too have to give back sooner or later. Why don't you make it a point to start now?
Have you taken the time to read and understand what the RRGCC stands for?
Do you really know what their goal is?
Before posting all of your questions, have you even considered joining the efforts of rrgcc OR are you just asking questions with an intent that is not so healthy?
In any case, I am just going by your exact words: on Monday Sep 29, 2003 5:18 pm, you posted on this form: “I did post them on the RRGCC.org”--------- and it didn't say anything about an email being sent. I didn't go accusing, I was quoting you.
on a different subject, the fact sheets should be considered an added bonus - something that will add to your answers. However, can you truly sit here and lead us to believe that your current questions have not been answered? If you feel that way, which ones haven't? I mean, seriously, it's okay if you have more questions, but I am just curious: If you feel that some of your questions have not been answered, then say so, and say which ones...In fact, try posting on rrgcc.org for a faster response time.
You may be the one with the hand saying give, but in this world, it goes both ways. You too have to give back sooner or later. Why don't you make it a point to start now?
Have you taken the time to read and understand what the RRGCC stands for?
Do you really know what their goal is?
Before posting all of your questions, have you even considered joining the efforts of rrgcc OR are you just asking questions with an intent that is not so healthy?
! Enough with all that detestation ALREADY !
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
Hey jackass, pay attentionI am not the charitable organization who is asking for donations/money/time.
See Frenchy, it's like this in America. You are allowed to ask questions. You don't have to give. You don't have to believe the party line and fear stepping out of line. It's a free society. We are allowed to hold the Goverment, our leaders and the policy makers accountable for what they do and don't do. Sometimes it's a thankless job.excuse me.....MOST times its a thankless job. For example, name the board members and the CAC. Most people can't. SSS is the one out front. The rest are an afterthought. The point is,and I want you to know, you are the one who brought this sheeeit up,not SSS or anyone who is important. IF YOU CANT TAKE THE HEAT OF THE JOB THEN DON"T RAISE YOUR HEAD UP. I would like to point out that SSS or no one of consequence brought this facet of the conversation about. It was the a**kisser vic trying to make me look like an ingrate. F/U very much vic.
See Frenchy, it's like this in America. You are allowed to ask questions. You don't have to give. You don't have to believe the party line and fear stepping out of line. It's a free society. We are allowed to hold the Goverment, our leaders and the policy makers accountable for what they do and don't do. Sometimes it's a thankless job.excuse me.....MOST times its a thankless job. For example, name the board members and the CAC. Most people can't. SSS is the one out front. The rest are an afterthought. The point is,and I want you to know, you are the one who brought this sheeeit up,not SSS or anyone who is important. IF YOU CANT TAKE THE HEAT OF THE JOB THEN DON"T RAISE YOUR HEAD UP. I would like to point out that SSS or no one of consequence brought this facet of the conversation about. It was the a**kisser vic trying to make me look like an ingrate. F/U very much vic.
What an interesting concept: here in Amerika we live in a free society.
also "hey Frenchie" that was was choice...In a movie I saw recently the character playing vicepresident always finished a speech with "God bless America, ...and No Where Else!"
also "hey Frenchie" that was was choice...In a movie I saw recently the character playing vicepresident always finished a speech with "God bless America, ...and No Where Else!"
I try to be a good man but all that comes
of trying is I feel more guilty.
Ikkyu
of trying is I feel more guilty.
Ikkyu
JH,
I suggest you not join the RRGCC, not donate time or money, not climb on the Murray property, continue climbing on FS property and expect to do so unencumbered for the rest of your life doing whatever you think is right. The rest of the climbing community will carry on.
When things don't work out for you, then don't complain. If you change your mind, call me.
Luv,
Johnny
I suggest you not join the RRGCC, not donate time or money, not climb on the Murray property, continue climbing on FS property and expect to do so unencumbered for the rest of your life doing whatever you think is right. The rest of the climbing community will carry on.
When things don't work out for you, then don't complain. If you change your mind, call me.
Luv,
Johnny