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vertical1, are you referring to economic policy, 'defense', or other?

“The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

-- Plato

@clif....Can I say "all of the above" plus healthcare reform. I have said I don't like Romney, but I sure as hell don't like Obama either. I am much more libertarian leaning anyway. For instance, propping up the housing market has and will cause more long term problems than just letting values settle back to where they should have been all along. People made bad decisions and foreclosed. Doesn't mean everyone needs a bailout. I am not for any type of wasteful government spending and deficit increases. At some point we will have to pay, and it will be harder later. We should have never been in Iraq. WTF are we STILL doing there. We also shouldn't have had the size of a role in Afganistan also. Get our troops out immediately, not next term. As a self employed business owner, don't force me to have insurance.

And this is going to sound contradictory also, but I think that one party needs to have house, senate, and presidency.....whichever party that is. when there is split party power, nothing gets done. Neither party wants the other to succeed. At least if one party had complete control, then blame could be easier to assign.

interesting, a man of action--, saw in colorado that both the green party and the libertarian party are on the ballot

@clif....I would much prefer someone of those affiliations running the country, but it won't happen. And even with a Libertarian president, congress would not let any change happen. The reason we are not energy dependent is that each politition looks out for his/her own interests instead of the common good. For instance Coal producing states don't want solar thermal or wind to produce all the electricity. Or corn producing states like Illinois want to have ethanol pushed as an alternative, even though it is highly inefficient. Each serves his own interests. It is all BS.

vertical1 wrote:@clif....Can I say "all of the above" plus healthcare reform. I have said I don't like Romney, but I sure as hell don't like Obama either. I am much more libertarian leaning anyway. For instance, propping up the housing market has and will cause more long term problems than just letting values settle back to where they should have been all along. People made bad decisions and foreclosed. Doesn't mean everyone needs a bailout. I am not for any type of wasteful government spending and deficit increases. At some point we will have to pay, and it will be harder later. We should have never been in Iraq. WTF are we STILL doing there. We also shouldn't have had the size of a role in Afganistan also. Get our troops out immediately, not next term. As a self employed business owner, don't force me to have insurance.

I am not expecting any sort of dissertation from you, but this is so overly simplified I can't even respond to it.

@Andrew....I tried to keep it simple because they are simple concepts. If you want me to elaborate on an item or items, let me know.

dustonian wrote:...Mitch McConnell and other congressional "leaders" have even admitted that their primary agenda for the last 2 years has been ensuring Obama's policies did not succeed in order to discourage his re-election. In other words, self-described obstructionism has been their primary objective since 2010, not improving the economy, not helping Americans get back to work, not reforming the corrupt banking system, not doing much of anything in fact except blocking our emergence from the ditch W and his buddies dug. If anything it is impressive how much Obama has achieved in light of this cynical and self-destructive strategy.

Well said. I can't stand it when people blame Obama for the lack of progress--it's like they're not even paying attention.

The fact that Obama is still taking the high road makes me respect him even more.

vertical1 wrote:@toad857.....Well since you put it that way, Romney is the only one of the two not responsible for any civilians or military killed, so I guess I should vote for him.

Man, I can really respect this point of view. A couple cycles of all Americans doing this and we would fix a lot of our problems! The cynic in me says it ain't happening. This is one side of Obama that I absolutely detest.

vertical1 wrote:I am not saying Bush didn't drive us into a ditch, but Obama is just spinning the wheels and making it harder and harder to get out.

What is your news source?
For example unemployment is decreasing:
At 8.2% the USA is 1.8% off the 6.4% average. It's been worse; it's been better.