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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:11 am
by allah
little jealous to me

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:31 pm
by automated
as the numbers get bigger, the minds get smaller. remember the good ol days, when everyone thought the red was naught but overhanging jughauls? welcome to the spray circus, the lamest show on earth.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:24 am
by woodchuck008
Yep. If I'm looking for the simplest path of least reisitance, well then why would I be bolting some godawful overhanging face climb in the first place? I'd be following a line of cracks and pockets that I could protect in the fashion of the good ole' days. TRAD rack, on my back. It's a talent, it's a skill that takes time. Climbers didn't move on from leading 5.7 up to to 5.12+ in a few months from some gym or pre bolted routes. They spent the time, studied the moves, earned their skills. Patience. Enjoy the moment. Drop the numbers game from your climbing needs.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:23 am
by 512OW
woodchuck008 wrote:Yep. If I'm looking for the simplest path of least reisitance, well then why would I be bolting some godawful overhanging face climb in the first place? I'd be following a line of cracks and pockets that I could protect in the fashion of the good ole' days. TRAD rack, on my back. It's a talent, it's a skill that takes time. Climbers didn't move on from leading 5.7 up to to 5.12+ in a few months from some gym or pre bolted routes. They spent the time, studied the moves, earned their skills. Patience. Enjoy the moment. Drop the numbers game from your climbing needs.
True, but I went from 5.7 to 5.11 in a few months... and that was in an area that topped out at 5.11+. I can't imagine a strong gym monkey today, with the right mindset, couldn't go from 5.7 to 12+ in a few months if he had the cracks to train on. I mean... 5.12 cracks are trivial compared to 5.13 sport, and gym monkeys do 13 in a few months with regularity....

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:24 am
by 512OW
automated wrote:as the numbers get bigger, the minds get smaller. remember the good ol days, when everyone thought the red was naught but overhanging jughauls? welcome to the spray circus, the lamest show on earth.


It still is overhanging jughauls, isn't it?

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:19 pm
by Ascentionist
512OW wrote:
automated wrote:as the numbers get bigger, the minds get smaller. remember the good ol days, when everyone thought the red was naught but overhanging jughauls? welcome to the spray circus, the lamest show on earth.


It still is overhanging jughauls, isn't it?
HEY! What about Yellow Brick Road?!

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:56 pm
by ynot
full of those darn drunken munchkins

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:23 pm
by TradWanker
Uhhhh....... now I'm lost??!?! Did this all get it's start from just 2 draws? :? :? :?

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:51 pm
by Andrew
supposedly 14 draws.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:12 pm
by 512OW
Ascentionist wrote:
512OW wrote:
automated wrote:as the numbers get bigger, the minds get smaller. remember the good ol days, when everyone thought the red was naught but overhanging jughauls? welcome to the spray circus, the lamest show on earth.


It still is overhanging jughauls, isn't it?
HEY! What about Yellow Brick Road?!
Oh yeah... chossy slab to overhanging jughaul to vertical jughaul.