What's your VO2 max? Calc. your real respiratory condition.

Quit whining. Drink bourbon. Climb more.
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Post by moonbeam »

In all (or most) sincerity, what approach did you use to get to the East Face of Mt. Whitney?
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Post by the lurkist »

OB,
I just don't know what is wrong with me. Getting old, I guess.
I write these vitriolic posts saying all kinds of things, and then I start to feel bad.

I will try to say this without being mean.
It doesn't take balls to refute your inaccurate posts. It would just take more time than I have.
Let's leave it at this- Would anyone out there believe me (albeit without me supplying any evidence) if I said I think OB is FOS?
Can I have a witness?

(fuck- that was mean.... I am such a dick!)
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Post by OB Juan »

No Really Hugh put it out there, really, and by all means supply the evidence to support it cause your word that I'm Full of shit may mean something to your croanies but it doesn't mean shit to me. I'd love to see your evidence refuting the two posts I made about the flexor and extensor muscle groups of the hands. You all insisted I present references so by God if your going to smear shit bring on referenced resources or shut up! We can discuss V02 later!
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"The single most cause of limb injury in climbing and all other dynamic sports (not including fall injuries) is poor core conditioning and lack of core strength."

your words.

Such a blanket statement.... that was clearly poorly thought out and just wrong.
We don't have to rehash the whole thread here, but reread it if needed.


Here is another that is frankly laughable.
"It takes the body about 3-4 minute to change from Anaerobic to aerobic respiration initially. You won't go back to anearobic respiration if you tire, you'll go anabolic (much different). "
Oh really. That is interesting OB. I was unaware that an anabolic metabolism was considered part of metabolism of lactate. So you know, lactate is oxidized to pyruvate by lactate dehydrogenase and NAD, and then with another pyruvate molecule glucose is created via gluconeogenesis. I don't think anyone considers gluconeogenesis an anabolic pathway.
I know, it is a big word an is fun to say when tossing parlance while trying to pass yourself off as knowledgable in physiology. Try a bit of education next time. It carries way more credibilty than BS, OB.
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Post by moonbeam »

"The single most cause of limb injury in climbing and all other dynamic sports (not including fall injuries) is poor core conditioning and lack of core strength."

I thought is was because my chakras needed cleansing.

Mt. Whitney - what approach??????????
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Post by OB Juan »

Hugh Don't beat around the bush, or change the subject to attack general statements made to initiate the thread, and take partial statments out of context from the discussion. Address what I asked for first. Anyone can piss on some detail out of context. You sound like a liberal democrat spin master. Address the hands bring references and bring refernces to dispute it. I addressed it as requested and supported my claim that core strength and condition limits extremity injuries. So present credible evidence to dispute my flexor, extensor support of my core strength claim or shut the "F" up about it.
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Post by fray21 »

It's too bad you guys don't really know who you're talking about. This dude's an animal and really is a "master" at this topic (and is considered a "master" by other "masters").
K9,

Does Ob Jaun make you his master or do you make him your master?

Master of what topic?? Talking shit or spraying about the other masters that he sodomizes?? I think Ob Jaun is a master on Star Wars, do you guys role play star wars or dungeon and dragons together?
Mt. Whitney - what approach??????????

I am still waiting to hear about what approach was used to get to Mt. Whitney?? What is the answer Master?


Toad wrote:
If you finished the 1.5 miles and were not tired, then you may not have pushed hard enough to get your "best time".


Not tired is relative. Its about being able to push yourself hard, while keeping your heart rate down.

So let me rephrase. Ones heart rate is 140, and the others is 240. Shouldn't their VO2 max's be different? Not by the calculationn given at the start of the discussion.
This was the only quote about VO2 max that has made any sense to me. The master has not came up with a reasonable explanation for this yet??

The 1.5 mile run is effective and accurate. If you wish to use an 800meter swim go ahead but your results will be inaccurate because of your unfamiliarity with swimming and poor efficency, a huge factor contributing to error (Big error). BTW you'll need to conduct the test on yourself or others about 100,000 times to calculate a reasonabe constant, though 1,000,000 times would probably afford you an reliable and accurate constant to use in your equation. Have fun dude!

Master, please be kind enough to provide some references?? What statistical significance is there in 1,000,000 iterations? That is as ridiculous as your six day hike to Mt. Whitney!
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Post by OB Juan »

Fray,

V02max is a MAXIMAL EFFORT TEST!!!
thats been stated and I think restated, your late effort to jump on everyones band wagon is lame!

Further I took the trail off of the the pine mountain trail at lone pine creek to the base of the east face just below ice berg lake.

What do you wanna stroke Moonbeam and yourself while you crab about the distance being more or less. Well save yourself I didn't fucking measure with a tape. I was told it was about that distance and that was good enough for me at the time I just wanted to get to the base of the pitches.
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Post by Horatio Felacio »

i seriously want to know how many times you've eaten out or penetrated a girl on the rag?
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Quote:

The 1.5 mile run is effective and accurate. If you wish to use an 800meter swim go ahead but your results will be inaccurate because of your unfamiliarity with swimming and poor efficency, a huge factor contributing to error (Big error). BTW you'll need to conduct the test on yourself or others about 100,000 times to calculate a reasonabe constant, though 1,000,000 times would probably afford you an reliable and accurate constant to use in your equation. Have fun dude!




Master, please be kind enough to provide some references?? What statistical significance is there in 1,000,000 iterations? That is as ridiculous as your six day hike to Mt. Whitney!
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