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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:34 pm
by Paul3eb
a few more thoughts on the study:
the period of covered by the study was during a recession in the american economy.
they give no information about when or where their measurements were taken.
what if it has nothing to do with the forests but instead due to algal blume. would you then propose we salt all the waterways with nitrogen and phosophorus?
what were the temperatures during those years? above average, below? rainfall?
..and i already told you how to reverse global warming: salting the oceans with iron. that's a cheaper, faster solution. why do you want to do that?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:09 pm
by vic
By the way... corals are both a plant and an animal.
Trees do more good than harm.
Do you know what will be the difference in temperature when you drive from a wooded area (more than 20 miles from the city - to a city like (say) Atlanta?
Usually more than 20 degrees... now, that's not really conclusive, and not saying that it's living proof... but given the choice, I'd rather have a small patch of trees in the backyard than a small patch of concrete.
If NOTHING MORE... psycolologically, it just feels better / healthier.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:14 pm
by alien2
Let's just agree to disagree, sit back, do nothing and watch the show like everyone else.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:16 pm
by Paul3eb
vic wrote:By the way... corals are both a plant and an animal.
not true. they are animals and do not produce their own food like plants do.
vic wrote:Trees do more good than harm.
do they? in what situations? for wetlands? for deserts? good for whom? harm to whom?
vic wrote:Do you know what will be the difference in temperature when you drive from a wooded area (more than 20 miles from the city - to a city like (say) Atlanta?
Usually more than 20 degrees...
the thermal bubble created by cities and suburbs (the suburbs are getting worse than cities with this now) is real but is not "usually more than 20 degrees".
vic wrote:If NOTHING MORE... psycolologically, it just feels better / healthier.
exactly the problem.. exactly.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:26 pm
by vic
corals... they are animals... you are right... but they are covered with algae. Look below at the quote:
Most corals, like other cnidarians, contain a symbiotic algae called zooxanthellae, within their gastrodermal cells. The coral provides the algae with a protected environment and the compounds necessary for photosynthesis. These include carbon dioxide, produced by coral respiration, and inorganic nutrients such as nitrates, and phosphates, which are metabolic waste products of the coral. In return, the algae produce oxygen and help the coral to remove wastes.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:30 pm
by Paul3eb
vic wrote:corals... they are animals... you are right... but they are covered with algae.
also true.. but do you consider people animals, plants, fungus, protists, and bacteria? we're covered in those, too.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:35 pm
by vic
welll... we do not generally produce oxygen... so no.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:37 pm
by vic
Although... I knew this guy... a climber named Joe... he had fugus growing so badly that perhaps his feet actually DID produce a certain amount of oxygen...
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:32 pm
by Alan Evil
Holy crap you guys are nerds.
Tongue kisses all around!!!
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:05 pm
by vic
Paul3eb is pretty smart - and the motto "question it" has led me to learn a few things. If learning something is nerd(y), then I am guilty ahead of time - I can't wait to learn more.