climbing goals '05

Post by **ynp1** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:26 pm

i want to do some winter ascents of el cap. anybody with me? my two chinese partners that i wanted to do it with died in mid oct. on el cap... so i need some new partners.

Post by **rockstar** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:29 pm

we didn't free much on lurking fear. looking to do some free climbing on el cap this spring. i went out there with my cousin but we had an easy time finding other partners. we fell in with the stone monkeys almost immediatly. kinda a new version of the "stone masters".

ynp1 that was cold. have you talked to dave? i can't get a hold of him. tyler said he was in bishop briefly.

Post by **ynp1** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:32 pm

yeah it was really cold for them!

no i tried once, but i cant think of any way of getting a hold of him. i email aili (???) and she never wrote back.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:44 pm

Aid climbing is anti-practicing.

I guess in that respect, I dig it.

Post by **rockstar** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:50 pm

what do you mean by that? i think it is cool. way more of a mental game than physical. it is cool to do like 4 hook moves ina row to loose free climbing above crappy gear for like 50 ft. plus you get to climb el cap 3000 ft of granite. 8)

Post by **marathonmedic** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:14 pm

ynp1 wrote:i want to do some winter ascents of el cap. anybody with me? my two chinese partners that i wanted to do it with died in mid oct. on el cap... so i need some new partners.

They were Japanese.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:22 pm

rockstar wrote:what do you mean by that? i think it is cool. way more of a mental game than physical. it is cool to do like 4 hook moves ina row to loose free climbing above crappy gear for like 50 ft. plus you get to climb el cap 3000 ft of granite. 8)

Yeah, thats what I mean by it.

Anti practicing....as in, the opposite of bouldering, meaning not so stupid.

Aid climbing takes you places.

Bouldering doesn't. People will argue that it helps you with cruxes, blah blah blah, but 90% of people NEVER make the commitment and effort on a route that they do on a boulder, so for most people, bouldering is stupid.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:23 pm

marathonmedic wrote:
ynp1 wrote:i want to do some winter ascents of el cap. anybody with me? my two chinese partners that i wanted to do it with died in mid oct. on el cap... so i need some new partners.
They were Japanese.

They were popsicles.

Post by **ynp1** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:11 pm

japanese chinese.... same thing....

aid climbing is by far the purest form of climbing and chipping! if you turned all the sport lines in to bolt ladders everybody would be having a lot more fun. then i would be able to on-sight something. everybody needs to forget about freeing stuff and just do anything they can to get to the top of the cliff. then walk off.

Post by **ynp1** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:22 pm

oh yeah in 2005 i also want to do the nose of el cap with all pitons. so rockstar if your with me you better cut the legs off of Joe' stove and make them into big ass bongs. the kind you hit with a hammer not your mouth.