Religious Climbing

Post by **jabbathehut** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:53 pm

thanks for your post Mayor.
you'll have to excuse loren and I --- were just in an ego contest.

I do look around, often I have to remind myself to, but I do look.

Most people say "why not" when they see somthing(especialy If its widly excepted by people they know) I see somthing and I say "why".....

Its easy to belive, its even easyer to dismiss, but to challenge without dismissing is hard, especially when the people you ask about it don't(can't) have awnsers.

Post by **Crankmas** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:04 pm

this discourse has been interesting, it reminds me of college many moons ago, I thought I had the answers when I didn't and still don't even know the questions-life is funny like that

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:18 pm

jabba...
I only have one exception to yor last post....

"believing is easy"...I have to totally disagree...believing can be the hardest thing you'll ever do...trust and faith are incredibly powerful options, and many times we only want to rely on the visible, tangible, and concrete things of life...

to all those bashing my friend jabba....not that I am the best character reference, but I can vouch that he is one messed up dude, and has begun to walk this path of finding his identity...

unfortunately, just reading someone's words can leave a heavy impression, one that is not always true...Jabba must be my clone..he likes to "yank yer chain", and see what sort of reaction will be forthcoming..read between the lines of his posts, and you will see a young man just waiting for the "chosen frozen" of the faith to jump his shit and admonish him...that just reinforces his belief that judgement and not love is the modus operandi of the church.

anyway, continue the debate my friends....

Themayor...very wise words.....if Jabba is truly seeking, and not being a piss ant just to be a piss ant, he will spend some time looking around...

Post by **Crankmas** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:23 pm

faith was probably quite common in the frozen Chosin

Post by **jabbathehut** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:26 pm

I havn't had the "priviledge" of college....
I dropped out of high school thank you.

Post by **Crankmas** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:28 pm

not necessary but you're welcome.

Post by **jabbathehut** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:35 pm

thanks piggy, I knew I could count on you

Beliving can be easy, if you belive in your self than to belive in anything else is just a choice, if you want it to be.

obviously im just a piss ant.... if i thought that i could achive knowledge worth my effort I sure as hell wouldnt do it here....

--that just reinforces his belief that judgement and not love is the modus operandi of the church.--

I've seen enough to make me sick... no one's words could make me more bitter.
I know that idiots are everyware, manytimes there voice is the loudest.
You can't assume that everyone agrees with the idiot, it just happens to be that the harder i look the more idiots i find.

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:15 pm

jabba...
can I hear you screaming right now?

Post by **jabbathehut** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:24 pm

was I screaming???
sorry my music was is really loud!

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!!!?!?!???

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:36 pm

I know that idiots are everyware, manytimes there voice is the loudest.
You can't assume that everyone agrees with the idiot, it just happens to be that the harder i look the more idiots i find.[/quote]

just checking.... 8)