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Re: Developing at a wall being developed

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:51 am
by clif
a few interesting thoughts buried in this thread. rjackson's questioning the idea of 'unlimited' rock and then the notes about the FS approval process. Ian, if you want to help me out i'd appreciate any information you would be willing to share. Bill Strachan, as always, i'm humbled by your willingness to endure these meetings but would like to get a sense for how many other hollows are available in what could be considered the 'destination' of the Red River Gorge and how important the forest service land is to the future plans of the rrgcc.

Re: Developing at a wall being developed

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:30 am
by DrRockso
Look at a topo map dude, there are literally hundreds and hundreds of clifflines undeveloped.. If you're that concerned about getting fa's put in the work and do it. RRGCC has nothing to do with forest service beyond being a liason between the community and the forest service. Get out and climb dude.

Re: Developing at a wall being developed

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:41 am
by clif
thanks-are you telling me that the rrgcc is no longer working to establish [-edit] a fixed anchor policy on forest service land?

[edit] and i guess i've heard the 'hundreds and hundreds' line a few times now which makes me wonder why there was any need for the rrgcc in the first place if access is not (or ever was?) an issue?

anyway, i appreciate you encouraging me to get out and climb, it's great advice. my concern is not so much my FA's,though i hope to do one route; but that whatever impulse it is that motivates 'the developers' with a pattern of 'FA's' is not as unique to them as is currently appreciated, and that there may still be generations of climber's who might have asked to follow in their footsteps. and, being from a place where there is not 'unlimited' potential, it is easier for me to hunt this particular unicorn.

Re: Developing at a wall being developed

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:22 pm
by DrRockso
It's called private property and oil owned land. As far as I know (Bill can correct me if I'm wrong) the RRGCC isn't spending much of its time or resources focusing on forest service land, and is instead concerning itself with land acquisition.

Re: Developing at a wall being developed

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:00 pm
by clif
thanks again. can I assume then that you'd agree that the best approach for preserving the experience of discovering new lines and caring for it's development would be through the rrgcc?