The Judge is in the house! (or the return of peer review)

Post by **pigsteak** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:42 pm

ass kissing dude...ass kissing.

works wonders. smooch....yuk, did I just kiss an ass?

Post by **Fartspray** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:34 am

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:39 am

the lurkist wrote: I edited out some shit talking about someone's route. I wouldn't sleep good tonight. BTW, I have personally discussed my comments with the FAer in the past and he/she is well aware of my feelings, lest anyone accuse me of being a panty waste glad hander.

Lurk, I'm confused. I know the route you're talking about because I read your post before you edited it. I haven't been on the line but I know it went down at 13b recently. Is it really a steaming pile or is it just not your style?

Post by **the lurkist** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:04 pm

My opinion of it remains. Gear better spent elsewhere.

Post by **SCIN** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:20 pm

I guess what I'm wondering is what makes you think that your opinion dictates what a good route is? I look at routes kind of like I do movies, music, and art. What one person may love another person may hate. It's nothing that can really be weighed without community consensus. I think you've been preaching that in your previous posts but saying you think a route should be removed because you don't like it is kind of contradicting what you said, isn't it?

Post by **the lurkist** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:12 pm

Hey, like I have said (preached) before- Thanks for the forum for sounding my opinion. My opinion is only mine. If it resonates with someone, well then we share it.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:55 pm

Wow. I've been slacking.

I saw Ho at the Lode on Saturday, and he asked if I was "Da Judge". I now see why he might think that....

First off, its not me. Ha. I read the post initially, and I'm pretty suprised it generated this much banter. Frankly, I guess this board has been in need of some conflict, and this was where it manifested itself.

I should do a better job of creating conflict, so shit like this doesn't make it through.

To Matt, Piggie, Blake, Josh, Ron, Chris, Snyd, Hugh, Porter, Jared and Karla, Terry, Johnny, Kenny, all of Team Suck, and everyone else I forgot who puts in all the time and effort it takes to equip, clean and develop these routes... choss or not... thank you. You are an integral part of what makes the RRG community a scene thats envied at every climbing area worldwide.

Even crusty old traddies (with new shiny matching draws) can see that.

Now, lets talk about something productive, like how fuckin retarded bouldering is....

Post by **512OW** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:58 pm

Oh... and on topic...

Art is subjective. The development of routes is art.

If you don't like it, move on and view something else.

Your "choss pile" could be someones first 5.10 redpoint, , or first 5.9 onsight, or first rockclimb, and they'll love it intensely for that reason.

Keep em all. We don't kill all you idiots just because you're subpar....

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:10 pm

as is the case with all professions, some people are obviously in the wrong field. not all self-proclaimed artists are good at what they do.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:22 pm

True. I couldn't agree more.... but climbing choss is like loving an ugly kid... so I'm suprised it just isn't in your genes...

Must have skipped a generation.