Paul3eb wrote:it was 700-acres and the article mentioned the pmrp currently has more than 200 lines open but that more than 80 other lines are closed to access (oil, arena, and in-between). see the rrgcc.org forum for a write up on all the exact costs of the land.
I was wondering if the oil company was attempting to price-gouge because they knew the climbers want it, but if the price was $250,000 (can't quite remember), that's less than $360 an acre. Even for so far out in the boonies, that's not a bad price, really.
Shannon at the RRGCC.org site wrote:The original purchase price was $325 per acre, or $227,500 principal plus $84,505 interest over 10 years, for a total purchase price of $312,005. To date $76,893 has been paid. The remaining balance is $235,112, to be paid over the next eight years, until 2013.
There are almost 300 routes now, more going up every week.
And Michelle is right, it's our property and the RRGCC is us.
the purchase wasn't from the oil company but from the murray family. there's a good thread on the property and purchase on rrgcc.com's forum. and, correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't the murray's take the lower climbers' offer over the higher oil offer because they wanted to see it go climbers? if so, that's pretty damn awesome..
brad mc wrote:this discussion can go in many directions as "fundraising for crags" is a large subject.
yes; i would throw down cash to climb at a crag. we pay $12 to get into a gym and are taxed to go to our national and state parks (and pay entrance fees)... nothing is "really" free. Someone pays the bill.
but not everyone will donate $$. no worries.
those that can will join the fight.
250k is small potatoes for a crag of this quality. do it now.
community is the key; teamwork; and freeeekin' nasty passion.
success breeds success. when you get a little done.... people will come out of the shrubbery and jump on the moving train.
you all have the keys (a kickass crag to save).... now ya just got to turn and open the door (rally the troops alongside your cause).
if you need any help on fundraising.... ideas... creative solutions... you can call me anytime... 678-898-8793 or email: mbmcleod@mindspring.com. I would love to help out in any way to keep climbing alive.
i spent a part of my honeymoon at the Red.... a unique place worth saving.
Thanks for your support, Brad! What you all have done is amazing and we have a lot to learn for you guys!
Does he have a strange bear claw like appendage protruding from his neck? He kep petting it.
Paul3eb wrote:.... but didn't the murray's take the lower climbers' offer over the higher oil offer because they wanted to see it go climbers? if so, that's pretty damn awesome...
Yep, that's the way I understand it. They wanted it to go to the climbers, even though the Oil company offered more.
Paul3eb wrote:the purchase wasn't from the oil company but from the murray family. there's a good thread on the property and purchase on rrgcc.com's forum. and, correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't the murray's take the lower climbers' offer over the higher oil offer because they wanted to see it go climbers? if so, that's pretty damn awesome..
I found out today that Mattie Murray died this week. Her grandson used to work for me. Last week he told me she's been in bad health for a while and they expected her not to make it much longer. Today when I came in to work I was told that he was out for the rest of the week because his grandmother died.
Life's too short to drink cheap beer or cheap coffee.
Paul3eb wrote:maybe we all could put something together for them? just something simple like a card and something (try to not say flowers) or the like?
If anyone's interested the visitation is today, Wednesday 1/11, from 5pm to 9pm at the Ransdell Funeral Home in Harrodsburg, KY.
Life's too short to drink cheap beer or cheap coffee.
The condolences of the RRGCC go out to the Murray family.
FYI a small piece about the PMRP and the fundraiser appears in the current issue of the Access Fund e-news: http://www.accessfund.org/pubs/en/e-new ... iver_Gorge,
Hopefully that will be a shot in the arm that will add to our total.
"Be responsible for your actions and sensitive to the concerns of other visitors and land managers. ... Your reward is the opportunity to climb in one of the most beautiful areas in this part of the country." John H. Bronaugh