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Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:00 pm
by toad857
climb2core wrote:Also going to look at "Pay and Display" meter for costs and expected return on investment.
Yeah--it doesn't even have to dispense tickets. It could have 3 buttons on it:

1. I'm donating $5 today
2. I'm donating $10 today
3. I'm not donating to Friends of Muir Valley today.

.....People just need to be confronted

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Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:03 pm
by dustonian
toad857 wrote: Yeah--it doesn't even have to dispense tickets. It could have 3 buttons on it:

1. I'm donating $5 today
2. I'm donating $10 today
3. I'm not donating to Friends of Muir Valley today.

.....People just need to be confronted
+1

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:05 pm
by bcombs
toad857 wrote:.....People just need to be confronted
yeah, like the gate at solar :roll: Paging Dr. Hitch, Dr. C. Hitch!

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:09 pm
by dustonian
I would hazard that the gate/sign in Coal Bank has raised awareness of the existence of the RRGCC and easily brought in enough donations to justify its cost (not including the emotional costs, of course :wink:)... If 95% ignore it completely, the 5% that do respond is enough in an area with that much traffic.

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:12 pm
by bcombs
I hope you are right.

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:28 pm
by Cleveland
I'm still on board with a fundraiser if even the Webers do agree to a parking fee. I really don't know to much about fundraising but would definately be willing to help out with whatever.

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:39 pm
by Artsay
The ideas being offered are thoughtful and achievable.
Just want you all to know that I'm keeping track of 'em and working with some folks to offer lose plans and suggestions to the Webers and FoMV.

Please keep the ideas coming and evolving!!!
This is a great discussion.

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:12 pm
by CLIMBTRAD
I would love to have a MIUR VALLEY sticker or teeshirt.

Also alot of the newer climbers coming to the red do not visit this site and have no ideal what is going on in the gorge,pmrp or muir valley.. Maybe a few more of those [stewards of the muir] to try and reach these climbers..

How are the laws differant from KY to alabama.. how can HP charge a day use fee..and know one minds paying. they seem like they are doing well and climbers get hurt their all the time..

oh now i want a muir valley hoody that would be cool

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:49 pm
by clif
hey

i just read the Access Fund newsletter and they mention both 30,000 'user days' and 30,000 'visitors' for last year. how does Muir keep track?

thanks

Re: Muir Valley Support

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:54 pm
by dustonian
i think it's "visitor days", including repeat offenders. Rick and Liz count cars and passengers per car on various days over the course of the year to come up with a weighted estimate. Yes that includes weekends and weekdays.