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Meadows wrote:From the number of cars I see parked up top and from how quickly the hill gets demolished, I don't think people are stopped from accessing the PMRP...

Here I am telling you that people are stopped from accessing the PMRP because of the road. Fact.

i'm all for the road to pmrp being maintained in good condition.
i don't think paving it is the way.
prevention first-stop spinning moguls and don't panic.
it also wouldn't take that much time to rake and shovel off the kickers.
and, for all those who oppose contributing could a separate fund be set up for road maintenance only? those who contribute could chose whether to use it for grading or saving up for paving.
and, perhaps, if it appears that volunteer effort may suffice on a monthly period during the 3 peak spring and 3 peak fall months i'd subsidise some bonus (i'm thinking if 4-6 people can spend 2-3 hours to fill a few potholes then i'd buy a case and some pizza, for example) for those who worked to improve the road and therefore increased giving by those who cherish their cars.

and Clevis' political acumen had indicated perhaps the best solution i've read.--if there are enough voters in the area.

Doesn't mean much to someone running for office unless you can cast a vote in the election, and there aren't many climbers living full time in Lee Co.

i don't think setting up a separate "maintain the hill" fund is a good idea. until the property is paid off, we really shouldn't be setting money aside for other issues. What good is a paved hill if we have no PMRP because we couldn't make a payment?

So let me get this straight. If you climbed at the gym. You'd have to pay bus fair or buy gas. If you owned said vehicle you'd have to carry insurance and provide for maintainence and upkeep. All of these things cost money. But because you made the lifestyle choice and didn't opt for a more capable vehicle you want the RRGCC to make up the difference for your poor choice of vehicle. The choice is easy. You are a climber, If you are going to climb anywhere other than the gym you need a vehicle that can carry you to the places where climbing is. Hence the whole, " If the mountain won't come to Mohamed, then Mohamed must go to the mountain!"

You bunch of spoiled priveledged bitches. Go out and trade your fru-fru powder puff and get, nah ...scratch that... I don't want you driving a truck cause you'd give rednecks a bad name. Tell you what.. you just get yourself a computer and practice being a bitch and I'l get in my truck and go climbing. Oh yeah, by the way. I just saw your girlfriend out in the parking lot at Miguels, She was getting into the cab of some dudes truck. I heard her say theres only one thing she likes better than climbing....

yeah, well, say i'm calling the bluff. either way, i want to know what they're holding. if justification for not contributing is because they can't climb in the pmrp because the road sucks then they should be willing to pay for road maintenance, money which otherwise goes home.....
right?

Whoa Clevus. Fuel economy is more important to some of us than trying to get our first cousin into the sack by impressing her with a big dumb truck.

Right on Josephine, paying off the property is definitely most important. In the long run, I do think it would be better for climbers and better for Triad if the hill were paved, which in the end is better for access. I'm all for contributing $ and time to the RRGCC, but after a few near misses on the exit moves I don't drive down the hill much anymore. That said, there's plenty of other important things the RRGCC does, and I do get down to the PMRP from time to time anyway.

Fuel economy...how about something all wheel? Maybe a subaru or a rav 4? they even have mini vans that are all wheel. They still have excellent fuel economy. You bought a prius or a jetta. It doesn't take you where you need to go...you are a climber,right? So why would you choose something that doesn't do it? Then you want the RRGCC to spend money to compensate for your poor choice?

By the way Triad trucks don't have any trouble getting up and down the hill in any weather. So for you not to be able to get down the hill doesn't bother them one bit! Don't think that coming to the table and telling Triad or any oil company that its in their best interest to pave the hill.

So lets review;
(1) RRGCC hasn't the money or the inclination to pave the hill.
(2) For the oil companies to not have you down in the valley is a plus for them.
(3) You need to make some lifestyle "adjustments".
(4) RRGCC is not going to pay for bolts/rebolting

Basically they are in business to buy the land, be good stewards and ensure cliimbing/biking/hiking for themselves and posterity.
They are not in business of re-engineering a county road, bolting routes for you to climb on or wiping your ass.

What you can do to be responsible for yourself.(1) Buy a capable vehicle or make friends with someone with a capable vehicle.
(2) Go spend $1200 to buy your own drill and sink $3 per ho;e and $20 per set of anchors.
(3) Buy some toilet paper and wipe your own ass!

Seriously, should this thread be about stupid shit like this?

I'd like to know more about the Koop connection to District 3. How large is this constituency? Are the construction contractors involved with the proposed bridge over Muir Valley available for regular road work and are they part of the district? Are there any other stalled or widely recognized road projects in the district? ....

so I went to the RRGCC website just now, and it did not appear to be very current.

am I mising something? Is there a meeting this weekend at Torrent?