Interesting read on fighting the pump

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Here is my two cents...

It all depends what kind of climber you want to be. If you boulder a lot you don't need to worry about lactic acid. You will probably have enough endurance for most problems. Just like a sprinter will need for running. Maranthon runners need to build up the endurance and be able to use lactic acid for a fuel rather than just glucose. The body becomes more adapt to handle lactic acid build up and use it for their benefit, the only way they get to do that is by running for longer periods of time till the body gets use to working with lactic acid. At the Red this is what most of us need to be able to do since the climbs tend to be more on the edurance side rather than power.
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Seems like it reinforces the importance of warming up carefully. Thanks for posting it.
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Or you could use Static's little helper, Microhydrin, to fight the lactic acid pump: http://ww3.royalbodycare.com/pdfs/JMF151-160.pdf
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Interesting article. I noticed that there was an average decrease of 1 mmol/L lactic acid, but I didn't see any indication of how this could change physical performance (I will admit, I just glanced over the article, so I could have missed it). Does anyone know what this would mean performance wise to climbers? Also, it seems that the athletes in the trial maintained physical activity for much longer than the average climb would take. Would a shorter time interval change the effects?
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I am sorry, but when ever someone tells me about a product that gives you an edge I always have to reseach it... here is what I found out about the microhydrin...if you search on scams and microhydrin you will find lots of helpful information.


RBC vs Flanagan Settlement Announcement

During the past eight months Dr. Patrick Flanagan and John Lloyd made adversarial claims against RBC in calls and emails to RBC Associates, recommending they purchase products from a competitor. Among their statements, they claimed that the amount of H- ions in RBC’s Microhydrin®, sold currently and in the past year, was low or absent. RBC responded with memos denying these claims and stating that Microhydrin® products have always contained the full labeled amount of silica hydride as shown by factory records, the quality control laboratory utilized by RBC on a regular basis, and independent physiological tests for antioxidants.

These and other actions resulted in litigation between the parties.

The claims made by Dr. Patrick Flanagan and John Lloyd were based, in part, on NMR tests conducted by different chemists, using different techniques, in different laboratories in an attempt to measure the amount of silica hydride (invented by Dr. Flanagan) present in products sold by RBC under the trade-name “Microhydrin®â€
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Certainly you can dig up a lot of muck on the internet. The dispute between Flanagan & RBC was regarding the manufacturing of the product. The dispute does not detract from the effectiveness of the product and no NMR test were cited in the paper I posted. I know Dr. Flanagan, John Lloyd, and Leonard Smith, MD all personally. The fact that RBC still posts this paper on their website attests that this dispute is water over the dam.
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It is not important to argue the point since lactic acid is good for you as a fuel why would I want to take something to diminish the ability for my muscles to develop mitochondria.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 235214.htm
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Exactly. Don't antioxidants help boost mitochondria?
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True, but if you don't push yourself to train the correct way no supplement in the world is going to help your climbing. We are a society would love to have pills that makes us healthy and strong but none want to pay the price of real work. I guess that is why everything is tested on real atheletes...
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