Redpoint VS Onsight

[pigsteak]

onsighting takes more of a skillset than redpointing.
redpointing is all about beating a route into submission. the closer these two are together, the better climber you have become.

[ashtray]

onsighting takes more of a skillset than redpointing.

Dude you have the most amazing grasp of the obvious.


So kudos to you, Mr. Obvious.

[krampus]

I agree to an extent pig, but there are some that are afraid to progress, and therefore never really project anything over their current limit.

[p0bray01]

who cares....just make sure your climbing, challenging yourself and havin fun.

But then again..I may be a jerry 8)

[Crankmas]

I think it was Ted Bundy who said, sometimes you just gotta want it.

[pigsteak]

ur welcome trey....or is it tray.....I only usually use trey when talking to my brothas...so brotha, peace out. or is it brother when talking to a brotha?

dang, I feel like a team crust member just trying to figure this one out.

for me, the inverse is true. I have redpointed 12a, but onsighted 13a....go figure...so if my onsight is harder than my redpoint, do the babes come?

[Crankmas]

that is pretty unusual, try to turn it into an advantage

[JR]

who cares....just make sure your climbing, challenging yourself and havin fun.

But then again..I may be a jerry 8)

Did you think this was going to be a fun thread?

[JR]

onsighting takes more of a skillset than redpointing.
redpointing is all about beating a route into submission.

I agree with most of this pigsteak. But.....

I think you might be underestimating the skills/mindset needed to redpoint at your personal limit. I have seen plenty of people look worse and worse on a route. Albeit there could be tons of other factors but to me it seemed like they might just suck at mustering up enough gusto to deal with a route that had, in their mind, defeated them.

the closer these two are together, the better climber you have become.

If and only if....There was a disparity to begin with....

[pigsteak]

crank.....I am just spraying, even perhaps lying. but since when is the truth part of this game?

jr, yeah, maybe my obvious was a bit too certain, but isn't that what we wanted?