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onsighting takes more of a skillset than redpointing.
redpointing is all about beating a route into submission. the closer these two are together, the better climber you have become.

pigsteak wrote:onsighting takes more of a skillset than redpointing.

Dude you have the most amazing grasp of the obvious.


So kudos to you, Mr. Obvious.

I agree to an extent pig, but there are some that are afraid to progress, and therefore never really project anything over their current limit.

who cares....just make sure your climbing, challenging yourself and havin fun.

But then again..I may be a jerry 8)

I think it was Ted Bundy who said, sometimes you just gotta want it.

ur welcome trey....or is it tray.....I only usually use trey when talking to my brothas...so brotha, peace out. or is it brother when talking to a brotha?

dang, I feel like a team crust member just trying to figure this one out.

for me, the inverse is true. I have redpointed 12a, but onsighted 13a....go figure...so if my onsight is harder than my redpoint, do the babes come?

that is pretty unusual, try to turn it into an advantage

p0bray01 wrote:who cares....just make sure your climbing, challenging yourself and havin fun.

But then again..I may be a jerry 8)

Did you think this was going to be a fun thread?

pigsteak wrote:onsighting takes more of a skillset than redpointing.
redpointing is all about beating a route into submission.

I agree with most of this pigsteak. But.....

I think you might be underestimating the skills/mindset needed to redpoint at your personal limit. I have seen plenty of people look worse and worse on a route. Albeit there could be tons of other factors but to me it seemed like they might just suck at mustering up enough gusto to deal with a route that had, in their mind, defeated them.

pigsteak wrote:the closer these two are together, the better climber you have become.

If and only if....There was a disparity to begin with....

crank.....I am just spraying, even perhaps lying. but since when is the truth part of this game?

jr, yeah, maybe my obvious was a bit too certain, but isn't that what we wanted?