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If they weren't shitty routes before, they sure are now.

I am nearly sure that area is private land. SO KEEP YOUR PIE HOLES SHUT AND THANK GOD WE CAN STILL CLIMB THERE. They are fully developing the top of that cliff. Screw with there real estate investment and they may screw us.

last known it was forest service land. theres even a little marker saying so when you enter the woods. the top is private, the tbottom is public.

What makes you think they got a proper building permit? Lots of stuff slides by all the time.

john e aragon wrote:I am nearly sure that area is private land. SO KEEP YOUR PIE HOLES SHUT AND THANK GOD WE CAN STILL CLIMB THERE. They are fully developing the top of that cliff. Screw with there real estate investment and they may screw us.

Their (not there) real estate has no impact on climbing on forest service land. If they didn't get proper septic systems (permitted or not) then they need to be addressed since it is a public health issue.

That's assuming the water run off is from a septic sysytem. It could be because the terrain on top has been changed, or someones gutters are running towards the back of their property.
The area has really gotten tighter with permits so it's just as likely the owners DO have a valid system.
The only way to be sure is that the next person(s) to climb the 10's would actually taste any water running down the face.

I can bring my dog out there and if she goes crazy to get to the run off water, its poop

I saw where they staked off the property line above when they were building the houses. It seems that the property line is back from the cliff edge a good distance. It does get close in a few areas though.

It's probably just water run off where they have changed the area to build houses. Bulldozing a few trees and clearing some brush could make a huge difference.