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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:53 pm
by pigsteak
you'd make a lousy endurance athlete mr underoos..it's all about repetition until you puke...

do some people not "project" because they are scared..either of failure or of success?

I guess that would be the same reasons people DO project...

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:58 pm
by spock
I like getting away from the crowds. You can't get that "wilderness" experience at military, even though it is pretty dang cool. I think all approaches should be like jewel pinnacle's. Getting to diamond in the crack is half the fun.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:14 pm
by RRO
old man pigsguts. just because you hang in a harness all day and scream props at your bros does not make you an endurance athlete. im all about going till ya cant go anymore, with anything i do, work or play. come on out and work with me for a week or two and we will see who has endurance. or we can go ride bikes. im way out of riding shape and have not really rode in over 2 years but we could see who quits first.

as far as reasons i dont proj a route and to get back on subject. with me right now my climbing days are very limited. i like to see new terrain, break away from the crowds and enjoy the peace of hearing nothing. trad just allows me to get that easier than sport. developing also allows me that time as well, well other than the drill being loud. i get bored very easy and doing the same routes just get old quick. well, and i am very weak and suck.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:50 pm
by pigsteak
rhunt, you got my back on this one?

my marathon is in 5 weeks..you still sure you want to take on an endurance challenge with me? :twisted:

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:18 pm
by 512OW
Trad takes you places that few sport routes can. It gives you more options. Theres something much less "amusement parkish" about climbing on gear.

Sport climbing is fun, but for me, its just a way to improve my trad climbing.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:19 pm
by FujManiac
getting away from the crowds, it's more pure and you can go anywhere and climb without having to wait til someone 'bolts' it.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:30 pm
by Eric Cox
Trad is pure

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:05 pm
by ynot
Whoa! Welcome aboard Eric!
I don't know about all those reasons. I just like shoving body parts in cracks and I don't wait in line like a sheeple to do it.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:33 am
by Yasmeen
JR, if you're looking for props on sending Fuzzy Undercling, there are more direct ways to ask. Nice send, though!

And from the beta stream you had ready for Casual Viewing, it's obvious you know how to climb cracks, so props on that, too.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:28 pm
by rhunt
pigsteak wrote:rhunt, you got my back on this one?

my marathon is in 5 weeks..you still sure you want to take on an endurance challenge with me? :twisted:
ok piggie

Yeah I'd say pisteak knows what he's talking about when it come to being an endurace althete. We both just did an adventure race together this past weekend - Team Pigrunt! 3 hours on a bike, 2 on foot, mostly running, and 2 1/2 paddling. Pigsteak was ready for more at the end and I was barely able to move after I sat down. RRO - go running with pigsteak sometime.

As for my perspective on trad v.s. Sport. I started out climbing at Seneca and then a gym opened up in Cbus. I did more climbing in the gym than outside but everytime I went outside it was to Seneca. When I finally went to the Red and "sport climbed" it all made more sense to me then. All the gym climbing I was doing transfered right over to sport climbing at the Red but not at Seneca. So I have always loved sport climbing more because of the movement base emphasis to it....just like bouldering.

As for projecting. When I was really climbing and projecting a lot, I really got a lot out of embrasing the process and then finally redpointing. Sometimes it was bitter sweet when I had to move onto an other route. Just like when you walk up to a hard boulder problem and for the first hour you can barely get your ass off the pad but then later that day you are sending or coming close to doing all the moves...I love that!