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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:29 pm
by redpointron
Wes wrote:I don't fill in the old holes. You can't even see them unless you are right next to them. And, it isn't like that little hole is any more noticeable then the bolts, hangers, draws, and chalk anyway.
i still have a few here and there that i feel like i need to fill in, but wes does have a point...does it matter that much?

regards.

r.r.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:35 pm
by Wes
Ron, to me it just seemed silly. But people get all pissy over little holes in the rock ruining their wilderness experience. If for some reason, I removed a lone bolt on a trad route or something like that, then I might think about it, but otherwise, I have better things to do with my time. And, for those of you that it really bothers, I will not be offended at all if you go and plug the holes up on routes I have done or rebolted.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:51 pm
by KD
why not use concrete/mortar caulk? It's already mixed and ready to go.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:00 pm
by anticlmber
i prefer hanging a dead kitten next to the holes. most people don't seem to notice a hole in the rock after they see that.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:35 pm
by tomdarch
anticlmber wrote:i prefer hanging a dead kitten next to the holes. most people don't seem to notice a hole in the rock after they see that.
I'm appalled! The introduction of the non-native kitten corpse will alter the local ecosystem. Plus, any moss or lichen that is in contact with the rotting corpse or dripping rancid fluids may be harmed- the stuff grows very slowly, don'tcha know!

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:55 pm
by Yasmeen
Indeed - look out, Kudzu - there's a new invasive species in town.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:26 pm
by 512OW
Buster wrote:I'll plug those monos myself...the day you get your punk ass up it.
I'll do it without the drilled monos, downrate it, and rename it "I moved to North Carolina cuz I couldn't hack it in the Red."

Then you can fill em in.

Use the epoxy method please.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:43 pm
by anticlmber
the kittens i use are all native (in)bred. i used to get them imported at a good price but i wanted to help the local economy. just doing my part to help out the gorge.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:12 am
by weber
Wes wrote:Ron, to me it just seemed silly. But people get all pissy over little holes in the rock ruining their wilderness experience. If for some reason, I removed a lone bolt on a trad route or something like that, then I might think about it, but otherwise, I have better things to do with my time. And, for those of you that it really bothers, I will not be offended at all if you go and plug the holes up on routes I have done or rebolted.
To each his own. For those who prefer to plug holes, this is an easy way to do it. If you want to leave em unplugged, no biggie.

You make a good point. Itty bitty holes pale in comparison to the 7-story-high finger-painted chalk murals we create that can be seen from a quarter mile away.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:18 am
by 512OW
We make holes.... its destruction.

Those indians make holes, we give em a fancy name and protect them.