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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:43 pm
by gunslnga
krampus wrote: I can only hope that most americans try to see things for what they are and not just blindly follow the extremely hatefull, OR the overly compasionate.

I agree with this totally, I dont think we are seeing very much of this, we dont have Mosques burning down or terrible acts of random violence blindly directed to any or all Muslims here in America.
At the time of the 9/11 hijackings several lebonese Christians I know had me consult them on Personal protection and Hardening themselves as targets of random violence, as of 2 months ago, other than a few names being called, they have been un-accosted. I would fight and or die preserving they're way of life as Americans as quickly as I would my own , these are good people who have done nothing wrong. Its the whole bad apple in the bunch type of mentality with me, no need to smash all the apples to get the one rotten, worm infested, mold covered apple.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:38 pm
by Wes
Micahel Franti wrote:
Fight terrorists wherever they be found
But why you not bombing Tim McVeigh's hometown?
You can say what you want propaganda television
But all bombing is terrorism

(chorus)
We can chase down all our enemies
Bring them to their knees
We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:46 pm
by Alan Evil
Zspider wrote:...Since 9/11 it has been taboo in the movie and tv industry to show Muslim terrorists in a bad light. Usually they aren't the terrorists at all.
Uh.

If the Muslim terrorists aren't terrorists...?

I think what would be correct to say is that "it has been taboo to show Muslims in a bad light." You seem to imply that all Muslims are terrorists. Though I doubt that is what you meant to say, I think you've said what you and too many Americans think: Muslims are all Terrorists.

Just to be on the record with this, I've read the Koran (fucking awful translation too) and Islam is just plain fucked up in my opinion. Way too much killing of infidels, stoning of women, blood, and restrictions on eating. You can kill a woman for just about anything in Islam if you squint hard enough, just like a certain type of Christian thinks it's ok to kill other people and to hate everyone that doesn't believe.

Besides all that, most muslims are just regular people that talk funny. They've got bills to pay, children to feed, hopes, sorrows, and stinky feet.

Now before we invaded Iraq there were probably a few tens of thousands of nutjob Islamist Extremists that felt they were at war with "The West." This is out of how many billions of Muslims in the world? Y'know, the Crusades were carried about by a few tens of thousands of wacko Christians against a few million people in the "Holy Land." We had a few tens of thousands attacking hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people that make up The West.

Anyway, I'm confusing threads.

How long did it take for a Viet Nam movie to come out of Hollywood? This war is every bit if not more complicated. I think most people think that the 9/11 movie came out too soon (by the way, weren't the Muslim terrorists in that pretty awful?) and here we are still fighting a war that has this country deeply divided, with most people being against it.

I've said this many times and I'll say it again. We shouldn't be fighting a war against the terrorists. We should be hunting them down like the criminals they are and either killing or capturing each last one. Notice that that's kind of what 24 is modeled on.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:52 pm
by krampus
Speaking of 24, there is a new episode tonight, so we can all watch Jack Bower torture his own brother to hunt down every last terrorist and kill them.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:55 pm
by Zspider
Alan wrote:

You seem to imply that all Muslims are terrorists.

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No I didn't.

ZSpiddy