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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:58 pm
by Zspider
Torrent wrote:

Let's just get our guns and nukes...

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That'd be just like my luck... bringing a gun to a nuke fight.

ZSpiddy

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:28 pm
by Saxman
Torrent Falls wrote: We have only been measuring the earth's temp and climates for just over 100 years. Who can say one way another? .
Not true. A ton of data has been gleaned from tree growth rings, arctic ice cores, deep sea cores, fossils, etc. The funny part is global warming is going to shut down the gulf stream in the Atlantic and really screw up the climates of North America and western Europe.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:42 pm
by john e aragon
Warm Age, is a better term for what we are experiencing. Which is what you would expect to find about mid-way between Ice Ages. I think we are lucky to be living in this period. Think about moutaineering during an ice age.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:50 am
by kato
Saxman wrote:really screw up the climates of North America and western Europe.
You mean "screw up the climate for humans", right? Does the world have a baseline climate? Aren't you a Darwinist? You talk like a creationist. Adapt or die.

(this is not personal, it's just for the sake of argument)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:22 am
by Crankmas
God created Darwin and...

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:40 am
by ynot
let em argue with that one Crank!

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:14 pm
by captain static
Retreating glaciers are not a proof of global warming. Obviously snowfall is a major factor in whether glaciers advance or retreat. Here is some food for thought: http://www.intellicast.com/DrDewpoint/Library/1305/

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:31 pm
by Crankmas
I didn't think Rush would be wrong

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:57 pm
by Alan Evil
It's just amazing that people still argue that the globe may not be warming up or that it may not be that bad. We have climate records going back almost a half a million years and we have NEVER seen this kind of sudden global increase in temperatures. What has happened in the last 100 years has never occurred over several thousand years in the past. The CO2 levels are higher than they've ever been (except maybe back before we had oxygen producing critters), and we are adding all sorts of aerosol (sp?) chemicals to the atmosphere that never existed until we came along.

Do you people still deny that we caused the depletion of the ozone layer or that by banning the chemicals at the root that we've reversed the problem? The key here is to quit denying we have a problem and to work on fixing it. Try driving a little slower and buying a smaller car next time. Turn off lights you're not using. Set your thermostat a little lower in the winter and higher in the summer and turn it off and open the windows when you can. President Nixon even understood conservation but the Republican line now is "conservation doesn't work." It doesn't hurt anything except the level of consumption. The markets should adjust quickly to that but they don't want to.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:13 pm
by dmw
Maybe once Manhattan floods people will take notice and finally accept that global warming is actually a real thing!!!! The world ain't flat, bitches!