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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:49 pm
by Christian
Once again I like the way Rick spends his days over the way I spend mine.
:lol:

Thanks for the test results.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:52 pm
by the lurkist
Any plans to test all thread? My guess is that all thread would have the most topography to bind the glue with.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:57 pm
by ReachHigh
I'd like to see drop tests done with dynamic and static lines.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:34 pm
by OZ
Why not just tighten the bolts a little tighter when first installing them?

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:40 pm
by ReachHigh
Alot of bolts regardless of where they are installed will loosen the first time they are used but once retorqed to spec will hold. I never saw the problem with bolts loosening after they are installed as long as they are retorqed before they had a chance to wear in to the bolts.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:57 pm
by OZ
OK. Then why not retorque everything to a greater degree?

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:57 pm
by JB
interesting. i like the amount of work going into this, even though it seems like overkill a lot of the time.

lurkist, if you are talking about stock threaded rod, it is significantly weaker than a traditional bolt. I've seen threaded rod bend and break in situations where a regular timber bolt of a smaller diameter has held. I bet it would definitely bind with the glue well, but i don't knoe if that'd help it much.

everybody keep in mind that even when rick has an awesome system worked out for bolting, climbing will still be dangerous and stuff could happen. be safe. nothing is foolproof.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:09 pm
by Andrew
I would really like to see the strength of just a threaded rod. I don't know alot about different grades of metal, but you would think that there would be some threaded rods that are of a little higher quality metal. I bet your standard threaded rod would hold more than enough weight. I have seen standard threaded rods bend too, but usually in situations where there is some leverage. There is not a whole lot of leverage when all of the force is put on the rod right next to where it come out of the rock. I would think 5 or 6 inch threaded rod of a decent grade would be really cheap and strong.

I think I might start bolting some routes with wooden pegs. They worked in all the old barns that still stand today. :wink:

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:06 pm
by Toad
I have a quality rod that can hold up a car tire.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:15 pm
by Jeff
OZ,
Is your soul purpose to stir up shit?