i think it was namaste who posted some incredible pictures of the mayor earlier. was she making fun of him? no. she showed him as he was and it came out incredible. "..this poor man to his current state,"? i would say that tha mayor would probably be more pissed about you pitying him so hardily than he would be about spencer's footage.
i never once heard the mayor talk or interact with anyone. having that footage on there gave me a new respect for him and his life and for what we now miss during out trips to the red..
The Mayor
Holy crap Lurkist. If you knew the Mayor at all you would have known that he prefered where he was and being drunk to your idea of what his life should be like.
I've seen it all over the country,not just Slade. I talked with him a week before he died.He told me he stayed drunk that whole summer,with a grin on his face. It meant he made a bit more money than usual. Lighten up.You arent going to save the world from itself.
I've seen it all over the country,not just Slade. I talked with him a week before he died.He told me he stayed drunk that whole summer,with a grin on his face. It meant he made a bit more money than usual. Lighten up.You arent going to save the world from itself.
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charlie wrote:Fuck the people that think they are better than anyone else.
You think his unique life and personality is any less valid because of the supposed likeness to a cultural stereotype?the lurkist wrote:......This perpetuates the stereotype of the Appalachian as a simple inarticulate fool, and a drunkard to boot. This is a stereotype that the areas of Southeastern Ky have been trying to shake for decades.
So, we have a 22 year old punk who could not begin to understand or appreciate the societal ills and dynamic that have brought this poor man to his current state.....
He was who he was, sorry if it embarrasses you.
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The issue is not who Tucker was or what anyone thought of him or what anyone thought he should be. The issue is the use of him in the video as a stooge.
Yes, he might not like it that I run to his defense.
I did not attempt to help him while he lived and if he lived now, I would still live and let live.
The issue is the with the climbing comunity and its seeming lack of sensitivity to local residents.
Show the video to Stella. Show it to Robert Stamper (who happens to be the President of Beattyville Chamber of Commerce). Show it to Rita Wehner in the FS offices. Show it to Edna at the Trading Post. Ask them what they think of how the local residents of Slade are portrayed.
I am not going to save the world from itself, but neither am I going to be associated with a group of people who think it is okay to publically humiliate people who have found themselves at the bottom of the societal heap.
This video is not too far removed from a bunch of guys stomping a drunk.
Yes, he might not like it that I run to his defense.
I did not attempt to help him while he lived and if he lived now, I would still live and let live.
The issue is the with the climbing comunity and its seeming lack of sensitivity to local residents.
Show the video to Stella. Show it to Robert Stamper (who happens to be the President of Beattyville Chamber of Commerce). Show it to Rita Wehner in the FS offices. Show it to Edna at the Trading Post. Ask them what they think of how the local residents of Slade are portrayed.
I am not going to save the world from itself, but neither am I going to be associated with a group of people who think it is okay to publically humiliate people who have found themselves at the bottom of the societal heap.
This video is not too far removed from a bunch of guys stomping a drunk.
"It really is all good ! My thinking only occasionally calls it differently..."
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It puzzles me that a few people posting here sincerely believe that this was not Spencer's intention, when indeed it clearly was.the lurkist wrote:The issue is not who Tucker was or what anyone thought of him or what anyone thought he should be. The issue is the use of him in the video as a stooge...
Lurkist, I believe that most of our climbing friends and local community friends would agree with your position. (And, most would have better sense than to jump into the fray here as I've just done.the lurkist wrote: The issue is the with the climbing comunity and its seeming lack of sensitivity to local residents.
Show the video to Stella. Show it to Robert Stamper (who happens to be the President of Beattyville Chamber of Commerce). Show it to Rita Wehner in the FS offices. Show it to Edna at the Trading Post. Ask them what they think of how the local residents of Slade are portrayed.
I am not going to save the world from itself, but neither am I going to be associated with a group of people who think it is okay to publically humiliate people who have found themselves at the bottom of the societal heap.
This video is not too far removed from a bunch of guys stomping a drunk.
) But, there is a small hard core group of contributors to this forum who get their kicks by shocking our pants off with their Bevis and Butthead sense of morality and their proclaimations that vulgarity is hilarity. Ironically, and as you well know, these posters are, in real life, some of the nicest folks you will meet anywhere. But, give 'em a keyboard, and Dr. Jekyl becomes Mr. Hyde.One thing for sure, they do get our juices flowing!
Rick
(even older and crustier)
We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand. - Randy Pausch
None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm. - Henry David Thoreau
None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm. - Henry David Thoreau
I can't wait to actually see the video, not the least because I never met the Mayor and I'm interested in hearing him speak - but I will go into watching that 'with a grain of salt.'
That said, is it possible that both sides of this are right? Is it possible that Spencer put in the interview(s) as comic relief: let's laugh at the hick locals, and at the same time, he managed to present the Mayor just being himself - presenting a man most of us would otherwise never have known at all?
That said, is it possible that both sides of this are right? Is it possible that Spencer put in the interview(s) as comic relief: let's laugh at the hick locals, and at the same time, he managed to present the Mayor just being himself - presenting a man most of us would otherwise never have known at all?
Bacon is meat candy.
Spencer's intent was not to stomp on anyone, and it would be a shame if the elements of the video he meant to set it apart and give you a feel for the Red (as more than just a climbing area-- as a home and place of business for some) ended up getting it black-listed.
"I snatched defeat from the jaws of victory." --Paul
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