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i'm making changes in my physical climbing as well - but also in the motivation and mental enjoyment aspects too. I got a tick list inside to enjoy.

pigsteak wrote:so if you climb to climb, and not to finish, who gets the draws down? doesn't somebody have to climb to finish?

The climbing faeries piggie.

I don't think that just because someone projects and has a tick list means that they don't climb for themselves. Bunches of my friends focus on projecting. What I've also seen are friends whose entire self-esteem is locked up in being a "super-strong" climber. When they are on climbs that are too hard for them or have days where they just aren't as strong, the day is over for them. They either don't climb, or they make excuses for not climbing as strong as they'd like, but they're constantly beating themselves up. This aspect of projecting repulses me. Again, not everyone does this but everytime I see it, I want to go hangdog up a 5.8 just to remember that sending isn't important.

in order to learn, you must come with an open mind. Thinking about what you 'should' be able to do closes your mind.
Last summer, I was 10 pounds overweight, scared of falling, and pissed that I couldn't climb as strong as I could 3 years ago. Solutions:
1) I began to gauge my success by how many times I fell while trying the moves.
2) changed my diet and began walking with a pack
3) realized, hey, dumbass, off course you can't climb like you used to! you are scared of falling and 10 pounds overweight! this made climbing more fun and relaxing.

It appears that after changing your diet and walking with a pack that you gained 5 pounds.

i'm witcha huggy - since feb have lost over 20 lbs, been gaining strength body wise, jus' gotta work the part on top of the neck better. need positive thoughts, good people, good vibes, trust and proper mental technique. this is gonna be a different summer season for me 4 sure I remember how every climb in my first years was a success in it's own way - i'm trying to move more toward that vision again.

Sunshine- at 5'8", with a small frame, I was 185 pounds! I'm not sure what I weigh now, but it is at least 15 pounds less.

I have found that the people who are the strongest climbers are often the most interested in others progress & hardly utter a word about themselves.

diggum wrote:I have found that the people who are the strongest climbers are often the most interested in others progress & hardly utter a word about themselves.

I have found the opposite to be true, but of course there are quite a few exceptions...

The question is...
Do you prefer the company of those people over the ones who are modest?

It doesn't really matter much to me as long as they are interested in climbing. Most of the climbers I hang out with are pretty modest, but I'm not.