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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:05 pm
by rhunt
I picked "responding to this poll instead of training."

It's all climbing..

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:13 pm
by Paul3eb
andy_lemon wrote:It is worse than crawling across the floor in your climbing gym and checking it off your tick list.
so that a down grade for "crawling across the floor in your climbing gym", no?
[whips out eraser and changes tick list]

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:04 pm
by marathonmedic
I'd have to go with buildering since it's almost uniformly illegal, not that it would stop a lot of people around here. But when people get credit for it and full page writeups in the stupid local newspaper, it can start to hurt our already tarnished image and I don't want anything else to threaten our access.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:06 pm
by Paul3eb
marathonmedic, to what are you refering?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:45 pm
by marathonmedic
seriously?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:49 pm
by Paul3eb
yes.. you used pronouns and were ambigous as to what you were referencing.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:10 pm
by marathonmedic
I'm not sure what exactly you're confused about so please forgive me if this seems condescending. It's been a long week and my brain hurts.

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I'd have to go with buildering since it's (=buildering is) almost uniformly illegal, not that it (=being illegal) would stop a lot of people around here (=rrg.com and/or Bloomington). But when people get credit for it (=buildering) and full page writeups in the stupid local newspaper, it (=their actions) can start to hurt our (=climbers around the region/world) already tarnished image and I don't want anything else to threaten our access.[/quot]

I think a lot of people view us as a bunch of nature loving hippies with no money who just freeload off of the natural resources. We leave fixed gear and chalk all over the rock. We trample the cliffs (and help make the trails that hikers use). We're accused of defecating on oil derricks. We don't always have the blessings of land owners.

People engaging in high risk behavior while trespassing for the sole purpose of getting a rush for themselves portrays "climbers" as selfish, careless pseudo-felons who are just in it for themselves.

If this still isn't making sense, please shoot me a pm with small words describing exactly what the problem is and I'll be happy to try again.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:17 pm
by Paul3eb
oh oh oh.. i thought you said bouldering.. dumb eyes.. my bad!