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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 3:43 pm
by Artsay
Maybe when it's done I can get my Ray back! Just kidding...
Really though, I swear he works on this thing all the time. It's been sooo much work so I'm really proud of him and extremely impressed. He's addicted to getting it done.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 4:52 pm
by Gretchen
That's pretty freakin cool Ray!!!! Good job!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 4:54 pm
by Gretchen
BUt I do have to mention that there are some HEAVY issues about including areas that are NOT in the existing guide book! And I am talking about the routes on private land!
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:09 pm
by ray
Oh, don't worry. They'll be in here for sure!
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:17 pm
by Gretchen
THat's not my point! Ray, have you spoken with the FA's yet, ie. Hugh L. Chris Martin, etc? By putting that information in the database = publication. From what I understand they are not ready to have the information on those area accessable to all just yet.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:23 pm
by ray
I read your post wrong. I thought you meant the unapproved stuff.
Unpublished routes on private land won't be published until the landowner okays it. I'm not incredibly hyped to publish those routes anyway so I will probably never get around to talking to the landowners or the bolt-putter-inners.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:26 pm
by Gretchen
Cool, Thanks Ray!!! I know that right now that info is a touchy subject amongst the FA's. PLus we do not have access secured as of yet.
YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH THE DATABASE!! I wonder how this will impact the guidebook industry!
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:40 pm
by ray
There are about 1500 "publishable" routes in the Red. I don't think the exclusion of those "touchy" routes will matter. Besides, it will suck having to type things such as "If you rest on the jug, the route is 5.12C. But if you only use one hand, it's 5.12d. Also, the First Ascentionist didn't rest in the hueco the size of a house so that specific hueco will not be included if you want the 5.13a pinkpoint. Oh yea, no heel hooking or kneebarring in the perfect opposing pinches or the route isn't 5.13b!"
I don't believe this will affect current guidebook sales.
In a year or so when the guidebooks run out though at least this information will be here. It'll be easy to dump to a hardcopy. I'll be working on maps over the next year also.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:14 pm
by Gretchen
Man are you super productive!!! I hear your points
I practice the rules game whill attempting to get into bed. Dyno to mattress but may not heel hook the bed post and side rails are OUT!
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:19 pm
by Guest
Gretchen wrote:Dyno to mattress but may not heel hook the bed post and side rails are OUT!
hopefully these silly rules don't count during sex. <img src="
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