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I love those types of warnings Artsay. I truly love the ones that say Known to cause cancer by the state of California. Since I'm in KY I'm ok right?

It's like everything will kill you or give you cancer. If you don't use it, it will kill you and if you use it, it will give you cancer. </rant>

Personally glad that the Aleve doesn't do squat for me in the pain killing dept.

I hope she didn't finish reading the warnings or she'll find out that they're insulated with asbestos, too.

That's why I stick with the trusted oldies...morphine

why go elsewhere?

The sun causes cancer. So I'm never going outside again.

Just don't read the fine print and you live in blessed ignorance.

If Americans (including me) were willing to pay for goods made with more expensive non-carcenogenic materials and wait for drugs to be properly tested, we MIGHT not have as many issues. Since we're not willing to do so, I believe that we assume a certain amount of risk so that we can buy cheaper products, food and drugs.

BTW, most of our vegetables actually contain trace amounts of DDT because we purchase them overseas where the insecticide is still used. But their food is cheaper. Good eatin everyone.

Thats why you wash fruits and veggies that come from South America(If it's out of season in the USA it prolly came from South America) the Naproxin thing bothers me.I have been using it for years.At my age thats not good.Most of you are to young and healthy to be worried.MM, does Ibuprofin do the same thing?I was hoping it was an alternative.I have had trouble with Tylenol and dont trust it.Whats left?Ordinary asprin?

There hasn't been any data that I've heard of that ties those risks to ibuprofen usage even though ibuprofen, aspirin, -coxib drugs (Celebrex, Vioxx and others), naproxen (Aleve) all work on the same principle and I think will be shown to have the same general effects. Having said that, the Vioxx study was being tested with high levels of the drug but I don't know about the Aleve one. I'm guessing that if you're taking the ibuprofen for pain and in fairly low doses (i.e. up to maybe 1000 to 1200 mg/day) you should be okay. If you're taking it for anti-inflammation (around 2400 mg/day) then your risks will be probably be higher. Sorry, but only further research will be able to demonstrate or refute claims that ibuprofen is also dangerous. (I think they're still trying to work out the mechanism for these risks since the current understanding is that the drugs should actually decrease the risk of stroke and heart attack, but that's a bit longer story that I can pm if people want it.) As for Tylenol, it works on a totally different level and although it may help with some causes of pain, it won't do anything for inflammation and therefore shouldn't increase the risk of stroke/heart attack.

Also, if you're going to take an aspirin a day, don't take it at the same time you take the naproxen/ibuprofen or the aspirin won't have the anti-platelet action. Wait an hour or two before you take it.

James, I would like that story. I thought aspirin too was recently found to be detrimental to the heart as well.

The subjects in the study were taking Aleve for a long period of time (years) before the researchers realized that it might be increasing the chances of heart attack.

Did you want the whole story on NSAIDs, COX-2 and their relationships in inflammation and clotting, or did you just want the clotting part?