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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:34 pm
by hashplant5
there's usually a crack comp in Lander WY every year, but I'm figuring you were talking about indoor comps. Also the Phoenix Bouldering comp is held every year outdoors where the boulders can be climbed at anytime by any one and a local hasn't won since one of the first comps there. Home court advantage ain't everything
Actually outdoor comps, including pheonix, have local and non-local divisions. Different points are awarded accordingly for climbs.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:41 pm
by hashplant5
If You ask me what the hardest dicipline of climbing is I might just have to say big wall. Think about it, Hualling a huge pig or a few, hooking, nutting, general shit you find on A5 That shits hard
Although interesting, your argument is invalid being as i know for a fact you've yet to get on any big wall or A rated climb. All that can be taught, you cant teach someone to throw off of crimpmaster flash's slimpers.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:51 pm
by rockstar
hashplant5 wrote:
If You ask me what the hardest dicipline of climbing is I might just have to say big wall. Think about it, Hualling a huge pig or a few, hooking, nutting, general shit you find on A5 That shits hard
Although interesting, your argument is invalid being as i know for a fact you've yet to get on any big wall or A rated climb. All that can be taught, you cant teach someone to throw off of crimpmaster flash's slimpers.
actually he's goin on what i told him. and you can teach it or learn it on your own just like dynoing.

and is that some setter or something? or a gay rapper? odub can you help us here?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:53 pm
by hashplant5
crimpmaster flash is a boulder problem at so ill dude, v7 way to the right of bodykarate and david+goliath both v8, and its not a dyno its a throw. Anyway hey Lanky are you goin to ve today? ill pay for gas if u wanna scoop me, i still got some of that 50's too we can smoke a jilla. PM me nigga

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:59 pm
by rockstar
if something can't be taught can it be learned?

and you really can't equate gym climbing with any real form of climbing. bouldering is cool. i mean you get movement with out any distractions (rope gear, belayer) but i'd way rather solo, but that's me personally. bouldering is, to me, practice for routes. gym climbing is not real climbing. call it training if you want but so is weight lifting or running. gyms cause a lot of problems in real climbing. they should be a last resort alternative to real climbing. and if you drive a long ways to boulder in a gym you gots problems. i mean c'mon!
gym climbers aren't climbers although a lot of people that climb aren't real climbers. :wink:

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:05 pm
by usccabum1985
Hashplant5 you are write I have not been on a big wall or an A rated climb ( have done some A0 moves, so emberising) I know I am guilty of making that asumption. I know I cant go entierly off of what other people say. Evan after somthing is learnd it can still pose lots of difficulty. And realy it sounds like more suffering than climbing, enough to put me off of it for a long time, or untill my tendons snap. 8)

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:09 pm
by hashplant5
Are you shitting me? You seriously think you can validate any of that? How? Wed all rather solo dude...and why does everyone on this site think bouldering is practice? PRACTICE FOR WHAT? you need endurance, knowledge of fall factors, efficiency on clipping/getting into anchors, abiltity to do a boulder problem while pumped etc. to do well on route. How does bouldering help any of that? And you obviously havent seen any good gym or participated in any decent comp or you wouldnt talk that shit about gyms, your just salty cuz plastic spits you.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:10 pm
by Zspider
One of the things that amazes me about a lot of climbers is the great significance they load onto climbing. I climb because it's challenging and fun, but beyond that I don't feel any need to extrapolate the act into some noble venture.

I see a great irony in glorifying climbing. An elevated perception of its importance inevitably spawns arbitrary rules and ethics which become so important that they overshadow the original idea of having fun. It took its toll with Royal Robbins and the Yosemite crowd, and also in the 8000 meter race. And the noble tradition of over-inflated importance continues with trad vs. sport, gym vs. outdoors, and bouldering vs. rope. So much for freedom of the hills.

Jeez. The soapbox I'm standing on top of is higher than most of the climbs I've done. :lol:

ZSpider

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:11 pm
by hashplant5
Yeah dude, aiding is for old farts too weak to pull on actual holds. All these people are freeing previously A rated climbs....hmmm. Oh that last post was for rockstar not you lanky, and im not glorifying anything, just shutting down the idea that bouldering is the masturbation of climbing

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:13 pm
by rockstar
why don't you solo then?
are you saying bouldering doesn't help routes? cause if you are then bouldering has no purpose. but you can't be serious. you honestly think bouldering doesn't help routes? whatever.
and gyms just suck. why would you want to be INSIDE, surrounded by "soccer" moms, pulling on plastic when you could be outside pulling down on some good STONE.
i stay away from gyms cause they suck. why would i care if i sucked on plastic? come join me on some walls or cracks and see who gets spit.