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Re: Progression Pyramids

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:01 pm
by Caspian
Meadows wrote:This past summer, a couple of guys introduced me to the idea of building foundations of a certain level before moving to the next. This past week, Monkey sent me a pyramid to follow which starts at a base of easy 11s and progresses to a 12. Although I sent a couple of 11s this past week, I want to add more hard 10s to the foundation layer and get ideas of 11s of routes at the Red and the New.

Has anyone else done this and can give me ideas?
Nice send on Fuzzy this weekend Meadows

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:06 pm
by SikMonkey
Don't get too hung up on goals and training. It's OK to go out climbing with your friends and have fun doing whatever.

HA HA! I will train to send and work my projects until I bleed from the eyes and no one can stop me! :twisted:

Mj

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:21 pm
by longlegsrule
whatever happened to having fun geez

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:04 pm
by Jonathan
I use a 3-D pyramid, sort of like 5 seperate grids. I have my long-term goal at the top represented by one square. The next grade down is a grid of 2 squares to a side (4 sq. total), the next is 3 to a side (9 total). This puts one number grade below my goal at the bottom with 25 squares. Focus mainly on the bottom layer first, but a send in the 4th layer here and there won't hurt. This method can take a while, but I can tell you that each time I moved on to the next layer I felt more ready to tackle that grade.

The problem with projecting all the time is that you waste time that could have been spent filling in a solid base. I've found many times were my ego got ahead of me, and I had to stop and make myself go back and build that base.

Just an opinion...not gospel.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:14 pm
by SikMonkey
Hmmm.....This may sound scary, but this could actually be a helpful and informative thread! These are definitely all good ideas too. My advice is to take what you like from it and make something up that works for you as an individual.

Mj

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:20 pm
by JB
at first, i got grumpy reading this thread, then realized that we all pull our personalities into whatever we're doing. so Sik, coming from a martial arts/fitness training background naturally applies these passions to his climbing. That's awesome, and he's a cool guy to climb with (even though he likes cheap ass beer). I am a musician and mystic type, so i bring that side of my personality to climbing, in that I want to enjoy myself, spend time out of doors, challenge my creativity, connect with something, experience flow, and laugh with friends.

Again, this shows me how damn cool climbing is, that it can support such a wide range of personalities and opinions, none of which are more right or wrong than others.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:25 pm
by OZ
Sounds like just another pyramid scheme to me.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:33 pm
by SikMonkey
Thanks Mayor! You ain't so bad yourself! :D Just remember though, no matter what you do or who you are, cheap beer is beer too.

Mj

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:49 pm
by Meadows
Well we could short rope Monkey on his project, that would be fun(ney).

longlegsrule wrote:whatever happened to having fun geez

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:50 pm
by Meadows
It's straight from a toilet, not a brewery.
SikMonkey wrote:Thanks Mayor! You ain't so bad yourself! :D Just remember though, no matter what you do or who you are, cheap beer is beer too.

Mj