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The worst thing about this is, if I were to approach one of you to point out a problem with your car or just to ask about a bumper sticker or something else innocuous you're going to run away with your eyes the size of saucers, afraid for your life. What a pitiful way to go through life. You're going to be suspicious of every one of the thousands of men you might see in a given day when there's one bad one you'll probably never see. Not that a degree of caution isn't advised as there are a lot of fucked up men out there but automatically running to safety whenever someone starts a conversation is just a shitty way to live.

I can think of two times I've waved over a woman in a car. One was driving on a tire that was nearly flat (probably saved her $200 as it was a Porsche 911), and the other had blown a cooling hose on the highway and was oblivious to the huge cloud of steam vomitting from under the car (probably saved her a seized engine). Now, if either of you and any other paranoid girls that read your warning have a similar situation they're going to screw themselves and piss off the person trying to help them. The person that tried to help them won't try to help the next person and our society spirals downwards.

Just try to keep things in perspective. And if you're still worried take some self defense classes. It's amazing what a key stuck in an eye will do to stop a rape. But if you go around afraid of everyone you're helping to destroy American society. That's right. We once were a society of kind, thoughtful, helpful, and trusting, peaceful virgins, full of love with women in the kitchen, children quiet in their rooms, and the men smoking pipes and reading the paper. Now look at us. It's all your fault.

Your points are totally valid, Alan. I just posted the notice because Spragwa gave me the info and I wanted to give everyone a heads up. I don't know how it will affect everyone who reads it. As for the self defense, I took 4 years of TKD and feel pretty confident about my ability to defend myself (and I always carry my keys in the way to which you're referring), but it doesn't hurt to be aware, too.

Alan Evil, Thank god for mobile phones. On more than one occassion, while off on long, solo trips, guys tried to flag me down (I even got followed by a truck driver to a fast-food restaurant) and there wasn't a damn thing wrong with my car.

So 200.00 or a chance of rape or murder? I'll spend the money.

That's fucking scary, Meadows. I'm really glad that nothing happened! Holy shit. Yeah, my life's worth $200+ to me.

OK, so this leads to something else I've never been able to figure out. This kind of thing happens to some women over and over again. Other women never run into this kind of thing. Some men seem to have people pick fights with them. Others never get into fights. If only we could figure this out. I had a girlfriend that was constantly harrassed on the highway (especially by truckers) regardless of the type of car she was in (though they never had tinted windows). But I've had other girlfriends that were as attractive or more so that never ran into this kind of thing. A couple of girlfriends had been raped and/or had several attempts while others had never had anything worse than saying "no" firmly. I've observed the same kind of thing in other women that were just good friend and I can't come up with any sort of direct link to what triggers that stuff. Is there a "victim type"?

Well, the interpersonal relationships of Americans has just grown a little colder, I see. But I guess that's just what I get for being male, huh? Thanks to another penis carrier that brutally raped a woman the other ten million or so males you'll pass in your life are equally suspect of being just like him. I pride myself on not believing that all women are like the girlfriend I had in 1994-95 and that was a pretty brutal year, believe me. But that's a different story that may be written some day. Let's just say that it's not only men that are abusers. It's pretty much exclusively men that are rapists, though. The only case studies of female rapists have either been as sadistic accomplices of men or women on testosterone treatment.

But for Meadow I want to say I can understand your fear. I'm not sure if your fear makes you a target or if there's some other impossible-to-understand-unless-you're-a-rapist-thing going on. Is it just that there is some sort of signal you emit that tells bad men to go for you? Or is it because you're afraid you attract the attention of men that get off on raping women? Either way you do attract the wrong kind of attention and I wish that didn't happen.

I remember a study of rapes from my psychology days at Tulane and the main finding of similarity on victims was that they were usually physically shy. (Please remember the word "usually") The women that walk tall, wear a short skirt and high heels aren't the normal rape victim. It's usually the shy, sexually naive girl avoiding eye contact. I'm just recounting what I remember of the study because I'm sure it has something to do with this. I don't, however, believe it points to any kind of solution or definiteness because "usually" was only more than half like 65% or something.

Again, I was only making light of the original post because it was in the SUCK (i.e. Flame) part of the forum. But as Ho hasn't bother to jump in with a comment about raping a pigeon he pulled over on a scooter we may not be in Kansas anymore, Toto...

Quite often, it is the timing and the circumstance that contributes to these crimes. If I am not mistaken, the rape in question occured at 3 a.m. Please correct me if I am.

Years ago, I was on the interstate at 2 a.m. traveling with my then 12 year-old daughter. I was in college at the time and could not afford a cell phone or a gun. A large truck started trying to ram me from the rear. After about 10 miles of out maneuvering him and consoling my histerical child simultaneously, I pulled off the interstate and headed for an all night restaurant. He followed me. I pulled off the street leading to the restaurant and drove my car into some tall grass. Fortunately, he didn't see me and drove on to the restaurant. After a reasonable wait, I got back on the interstate and headed home. Since then, I have learned to shoot straight, and I travel armed. I would not have hesitated to run him down with my car had he left his vehicle that night.

Why were we targeted? I have no idea. We were in a rusted out 85 Cavalier, I in my 40s; she 12. Who knows? I believe the hunters lurk in the night waiting for the prey!

A female alone cannot afford to trust strangers. Regardless of the impact on society, the risk is not worth the possible consequences. I regret that it has come to that. Remember, I grew up in a time when we did not lock our doors, and we picked up hitchhikers. Times have changed.

Alan Evil wrote:
But for Meadow I want to say I can understand your fear. I'm not sure if your fear makes you a target or if there's some other impossible-to-understand-unless-you're-a-rapist-thing going on. Is it just that there is some sort of signal you emit that tells bad men to go for you? Or is it because you're afraid you attract the attention of men that get off on raping women? Either way you do attract the wrong kind of attention and I wish that didn't happen.
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FU Alan Evil. I don't wave at truck drivers or other people while in traffic. I don't blow them kisses. I don't wear bikinis while driving. I don't emit anything. Hell, I don't even look at them. Rapacious, perverted, desperate characteristics (whatever is going on in their warped minds) is a fault that holds no responsibility on my or any other woman's part. I ignore those guys and for the most part, it works. We're talking about being on an interstate where I usually average 80mph; the dudes only get a glimpse of the women at that speed. There is no way to emit anything unless I drive my car alongside of his with my number taped to the window.

damn there are some scary folks out there, lost a good friend to abduction back in Wyo some years back

I think we need to start a handgun fund for meadows, though you know, just in case service isn't available.

Alan you are walking in some dangerous territory and you are beginning to offend some pretty smart ladies.

It is a waste of time trying to figure out why some women are targeted and others aren't. To the best of my knowledge I have never been followed or approached, but that doesn't mean I haven't been. Who knows what other factors may diffuse a situation? But the moment I start attributing the fact that I haven't been a victim to a 'vibe' I emit, is the moment I stick my head in the sand.

Yasmeen posted this warning not just for panicky women, but for everyone. That includes men. If you are at a gas station and you watch some stranger approach a solo woman perk up your ears, start paying attention. If it seems weird casually intrude - ask the time, ask for directions. If you're on the highway and you see something equally suspicious pull off a few yards ahead, and call the police. There are so many ways where just a small intrusion can change a dangerous situation.

andrew's sis wrote:Alan you are walking in some dangerous territory and you are beginning to offend some pretty smart ladies.

.......and some men.

Fuck off dude, it's tough to be a girl in a boy's world and if you don't understand that then maybe you'd like to take a field trip through the ghetto Sat night. Or maybe through some of the back fields or the places around where I live where the locals are a little territorial?

Have your car break down in Nashville after dark and see what kind of 'signals' you give off.