Layout Questions

Post by **Danny** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:18 pm

I can never read the route names and grades in the PDFs using the linux acroread.

Unable to find or create the font "Verdana,Italic'

I could probably figure out how to get this font but it might be good to use a more common font.

As far as too many links on the main page it seems the best thing would be to have a single link and separate page for the mini-guides.

Post by **Jeff** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:19 pm

I want a talking guide so that I don't have to do all that reading.

Post by **captain static** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:51 pm

I can see it now, like a Star Trek episode, speaking to your PDA, "Computer, tell me how to get to the base of the Quest and what gear I'll need."

Post by **Christian** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:09 pm

Computer. Yes captain.
Whats the beta on ....

Post by **tomdarch** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:24 pm

marathonmedic wrote:I'd like to see more maps in the mini-guides as long as there's no copyright problems. Or how about a pdf of just maps since you can already download the entire guidebook in a single file for PDA viewing?

I've been trying to help on the map front - making good maps is time consuming!

Rain Man wrote:I'm still trying to get the .pdf files to work/properly display (read fit the screen) on my PDA using Adobe for pocket PC. I think the file might need to be saved on a more current version of Adobe, or maybe even specific to the PDA format. I don't know, but that's my ideal...have the whole guidbook available whenever, whereever.

The PDF on PDA thing is sub-optimal. When you transfer the file to the PDA, the Acrobat for PDA tool does some sort of translation to it. I've messed around a bit with it, and I haven't been able to get good results either. I just got access to Acrobat Pro, so I'll try to find some time to see if it has some PDA specific features. For now, I'm sticking with the raw text version for the PDA.

Danny wrote:I can never read the route names and grades in the PDFs using the linux acroread.

Unable to find or create the font "Verdana,Italic'

I could probably figure out how to get this font but it might be good to use a more common font.

As far as too many links on the main page it seems the best thing would be to have a single link and separate page for the mini-guides.

Veranda is a super-common font on Windows - I'm surprised that there isn't an imitation for Linux (but from the little I've heard, there are a lot of font issues on Linux. It took years for Windows to catch up to the Mac's font handling, and it will take a lot of work for Linux to catch up also) There's supposed to be a pdf2html tool out there to view PDFs in a web browser.

That sounds like a great idea - put one link on the front page for printable guides, then a page that covers them.

Ray - in case I wasn't clear, feel free to include my overview map in anything you want! (Plus I may have some time next week to update it - like fixing the 'marimba' issue!)

Post by **lordjim_2001** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:33 pm

For the record, with sharps brand of PDA's and specifically with my model SL-5500, I have no trouble viewing the pdf maps. You have to scroll around a lot but it's all there.

Post by **marathonmedic** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:37 am

I can pull up the pda maps on my Palm, but the image is still really small and it's hard to make out the numbers. For me nothing seems to beat having the drawing of each crag with numbers pointing to each route so I don't get mixed up. Either that or someone who actually knows what they're talking about telling me which is which.

Post by **SCIN** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:01 pm

Cool, thanks everyone for the input. This lets me know where to focus my efforts.

Again, if anyone wants to do some topos of the crags or more maps.....feel free. My idea is to make this guide more and more of a collaborative effort.