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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:52 am
by Spragwa
Yeah but Ho placed all of his own gear...because he's a mutant.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:49 am
by Rain Man
Spragwa wrote:Yeah but Ho placed all of his own gear...because he's a mutant.
That's what I mean, Wes. My understanding was the FA was done with the gear already placed and HF did it "ground up", as in "Here's the rock, here's my gear on my harness/sling, whatever, here's my hand on the rock".

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:52 am
by Spragwa
Ho didn't get the FA. Steve Petro got the FA with one piece placed. I have learned from listening to others that it's entirely ethical to do a hard trad line like that with a cople of pre-placed pieces and still claim the FA. Man there are tons of strange FA's out there. Apparently, one climber got the FA at a hard climb at the Mother Lode by clipping an eight foot sling attached to the anchors. Did he do the last few moves? Don't know.

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:54 am
by Spragwa
You know what Rainman, I just re-read your post and realized that you never claimed that HF got the FA. My bad man. Just forget all of that blather. :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:01 pm
by Horatio Felacio
i've climbed with dagger-x several times. even belayed him on wtok. he was pretty close to getting...fell once at the crux. i think you guy's owe him an apology.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 12:06 pm
by TradMike
I know a Black Dagger. It's a sweet overhanging crack with chimney moves at the base of Yosemite Falls.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:14 pm
by Alan Evil
Horatio Felacio wrote:i've climbed with dagger-x several times. even belayed him on wtok. he was pretty close to getting...fell once at the crux. i think you guy's owe him an apology.
Ok, so what the fuck? Is this just Ho bullshitting? If so, it doesn't translate. It's like "soap opera interuptus" or something.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:09 am
by SCIN
Ho? Bullshit? Never.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:27 am
by Alan Evil
Oooooooooh. Right.

I dwove.