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Back to SCIN's point: aren't there a bunch of whiners here who claim that "kneebars are against the rules"? For them, isn't it big news when someone sends a route "the rigth way"?

knee bars show weakness of character. that said, it isn't the climbing presses purview to report on the decline of western civilization, and shit....
after all, we all climb- we know the end is nigh.

man I must have a very weak character

It could be viewed that finding and utilizing a feature that provides a kneebar may be the mark of a superior climber.

Not using any tricks may merely mean that the climber is really strong, but not necessarily smart about their rockcraft.

The best onsight climbers are the ones skilled in finding and making use of any rests they can get.

onsight climbing is the only important kind. all the other stuff is just practice. that's because the real reason for climbing is to be ready to get away from bears and other monsters that are chasing you. therefore only routes that top out or have big ledges or wacos you can sit in for a couple weeks count as real climbing. most of the sport routes in the red are no good cause you'll get tired of hanging there after a while and fall right into the monsters mouth.

i have to confess that i moan about knee bars only because a route i bolted was made significantly easier because of an obvious and clearly on route kneebar that i myopically missed. basically i am bitter and biased. (and i suck at onsighting, only adding to the bitterness).

Left knee, right knee, wee knee. The important thing is to know which one to use. If you use your knees as much as I do, then try to protect them.

you crack me up, Danny.

Danny didn't you roll up on a ledge for a rest on Return of Chris Snyder?
I thoght I saw you climbing all over that route.