Hmmm, well if I had my druthers, we'd all try to refrain from being intentionally offensive. The ClimbKentucky.com community was made up of a lot of different kinds of people - we should try to respect each other, to the degree that is reasonable. I'm not advocating a "PC" forum, but what's wrong with speaking intelligently as a general rule? Obscenities are great and they can be very effective - until they are overused, then they just make people who are using them look stupid.
For example, I frequently curse like a sailor, but not around my children, not in business situations, and not around my friends who are offended by such language. That said, some 'bad' words are no longer as shocking as they used to be in the course of normal conversation (i.e. hell, damn, shit, bitch) so they can probably slide by if they aren't being used specifically to offend, but other words should perhaps be confined to the Suck Board. What do you all think?
Should users be allowed to vote someone off the island?
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Horatio Felacio
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that all depends on the definition of flaming and what belongs in the suck board. if i got in an argument about access on the trad forum or whatever, you're damn skippy i'd be cussing. i mean, if it were face to face i'd act the same way maybe. i don't know. depends on the situation.
Yo HO!! Just got me a code red and some funyons big dawg!!! SHIT YEAH! - Ray, excited about his breakfast
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Agree, Hoe. But there's a difference between obscenities used in a heated debate and obscenities used to degrade someone or simply to disgust people. Again I say if we think the moderators are going too far, speak up. I also think we should all try to refrain from seeing how far we can push the limits, though.
Lynn I agree with you. I tend to utilize cuss words as adjective, such as "that was a f****** bad*** climb.." It just kinda rolls off. I don't intend to use to attack people directly. "--------" you ****** dickhead...
unless provoked.
BUt let's face it, users of any board are coming from different age groups, backgrounds, etc. How one relates to others is a tough call to make.
unless provoked.
BUt let's face it, users of any board are coming from different age groups, backgrounds, etc. How one relates to others is a tough call to make.
Just genuinely disengenuous.
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Here's some input from the guy who we all know is a lousy moderator and who we all secretly despise.
I don't think most people understand that just because you talk one way or another in private means you can talk that way in public. Yes, a bbs is conversational, but it's also public, and there are certain things you can't say in public without getting into trouble. You can't yell fire in a building without being asked to leave. You can't talk in a movie theatre without being asked to leave. You can't cuss at people while standing in line at the grocery without being asked to leave. It's everywhere you go, not just the internet. Do you respect that people don't wanna here about your dogs balls while standing in line at Miguels? Well, talking about it on a bbs is like yelling it out at Miguels so that everyone can hear you, then writing it down so that those who come in later can read what you said.
It's a matter of respect. I have a potty mouth and talk about some pretty sick stuff in the right company, but I don't say those things in public. I respect that some folks don't want to hear it. I say you're all weak if you can't understand and abide by that. To say you don't care what other people think and that it's their problem, not yours is just a whole lot of immaturity. "If they don't like it, they can leave" is a selfish and pathetic way to be. Have you no self-worth?
Also, saying "aww hell, that's not cool", "what the fuck is that?", "that's a damn shame", "holy shit that's crazy" is conversational swearing right? sure it is. Should that be moderated? I dunno. Are you going to make that democratic too. I see that you want to make certain hard decisions democratic, but have already "decided" to make some on your own like
Horatio, do you really think it's an okay thing to verbally attack someone that you passionately disagree with? You said "damn skippy" you'd be cussing if you had an arguement? Maybe you're even dumber than I thought. Arguing with insults and violent agression is what makes Gretchen wrong. Swearing is often a sign of stupidity, in the same way that red in the face evangelists are often less than intelligent.
Anyway, I'm sure none of this made any damn sense. I'll go away now and let the "deomcracy" roll on. Good luck to you all.
I don't think most people understand that just because you talk one way or another in private means you can talk that way in public. Yes, a bbs is conversational, but it's also public, and there are certain things you can't say in public without getting into trouble. You can't yell fire in a building without being asked to leave. You can't talk in a movie theatre without being asked to leave. You can't cuss at people while standing in line at the grocery without being asked to leave. It's everywhere you go, not just the internet. Do you respect that people don't wanna here about your dogs balls while standing in line at Miguels? Well, talking about it on a bbs is like yelling it out at Miguels so that everyone can hear you, then writing it down so that those who come in later can read what you said.
It's a matter of respect. I have a potty mouth and talk about some pretty sick stuff in the right company, but I don't say those things in public. I respect that some folks don't want to hear it. I say you're all weak if you can't understand and abide by that. To say you don't care what other people think and that it's their problem, not yours is just a whole lot of immaturity. "If they don't like it, they can leave" is a selfish and pathetic way to be. Have you no self-worth?
Also, saying "aww hell, that's not cool", "what the fuck is that?", "that's a damn shame", "holy shit that's crazy" is conversational swearing right? sure it is. Should that be moderated? I dunno. Are you going to make that democratic too. I see that you want to make certain hard decisions democratic, but have already "decided" to make some on your own like
. What kinda democracy is this going to be. Let's also use all those same swear words differently now: "you go to hell and rot you fucking piece of shit. damn you!" I think the meaning of these words has suddenly become less than conversational and very much inflamatory. What is moderatable? Certainly it's not just swearing. It's more the spirit of the remark. Things that might need moderated are libelous comments, direct attacks that could be considered harrasment, and other things that violate the user agreement, whatever the user agreement becomes in this "democracy" where the membership is by invitation... hmmm.Ray: I already decided not to let language be an issue on here
Horatio, do you really think it's an okay thing to verbally attack someone that you passionately disagree with? You said "damn skippy" you'd be cussing if you had an arguement? Maybe you're even dumber than I thought. Arguing with insults and violent agression is what makes Gretchen wrong. Swearing is often a sign of stupidity, in the same way that red in the face evangelists are often less than intelligent.
Anyway, I'm sure none of this made any damn sense. I'll go away now and let the "deomcracy" roll on. Good luck to you all.
:: I may be weak, but I have bad technique!! ::
Yeah bberlier, apparently you get enough of that at home! 
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Horatio Felacio
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like i said, it depends on the situation. arguing with friends = cussing. with strangers = probably not. i do think it's a good way to get someones attention when they're not really listening to you, but just wanting to argue. maybe not. i'm no lawyer. i guess the kind of argument i'm thinking of specifically is with beta bitch tits. that guy pissed me off so bad, i was ready to rage. so it depends on the other party too.
Yo HO!! Just got me a code red and some funyons big dawg!!! SHIT YEAH! - Ray, excited about his breakfast
JB, who do I attack? Those that strike first. I am an assertive person by nature, I make no bones about that. I also can be extremly direct because I don't have time nor the energy to deal with those who prefer to bitch behind your back. I am not going to befriend everyone, I don't care to. You & I probably have never held a conversation together so you truely do not know what my intellence level rates at. How I choose to carry myself on a forum is my choice and I truely don't care what others think. Life is to short to worry about such trivial things. I enjoy the forums and they are useful as well as entertaining.
Just genuinely disengenuous.