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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:51 pm
by Danny
rhunt wrote:how many time do I have to say this...trad SUCKS at the red...gees I sound like a broken record!
Why do you say it sucks? I've climbed in J-tree, T-wall, Shortoff, Looking Glass, Black Hills, the Red and Yosemite. They are all different. I think trad in the Red is fantastic. Some complain about the rock being too soft but I haven't found that to be a problem. Sometimes chossy regions do present obstacles but that is part of what makes it interesting. There is lots of variety in terms of crack width, steepness and friction and there are a lot of routes. The fact that there is sport mixed in is cool also. It's true that the red is missing the longer routes but what we have is still challenging, interesting, and fun -- the things I look for in a climb.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:30 pm
by ynot
I have been all but 4 of the above. So far Lust at first sight is my favorite.
They are all great routes. The Beenling is a sandbag. Rocket man is going to feel stiff for the grade. I cant wait to try Jungle Beat. I still havent found Blister in the Sun. Dont miss the second pitch of Africa. Trad in the Red gets really good at 5.9 and above.plenty to choose from.

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:12 am
by Wicked Tribe
Blue Biner is pretty cool. For face climbing try Central Scrutinizer. Its technically mixed but you won't notice.

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:32 pm
by goodguy
Broken Chicken Wing

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:10 pm
by Larry Day
Can't say what's best because I've done so few of the 5.9s, but Jungle Beat is really cool. I still remember it vividly though I haven't been on the route since '79!

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:42 am
by john e aragon
where lizards dare, great exposure and a stunning line.

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:37 pm
by hamsco
Dannys right Jungle Beat for sure
"Adventure climbing at it's best"

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:20 am
by ynot
I thought of a good one today. I followed it so I got to enjoy the moves. It has everything. No Return 2 pitches, nice topout,sustained,cool moves,fists to tips.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:48 am
by Danny
true dat

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:04 pm
by Legion
Headstone Surfer